How To Hook A Midi Keyboard And Track Recorder To A P/C?

[MR.BYTCH KILLA]

Whats the dam deal R.R.com,


First of all is this possible?

I plan to run firewire and use a track recorder sometimes(like the tascam 24 track)....

So yea I still want that M-audio firwire 410 ,I bid on ebay for all my recording needs...Nice Prices .....

I guess that this is what Ill hook my keyboard to right?
Right now I got my Boss br-8 with a nice azz built in amp with input control...I plan to replace this with the tascam 24 track.

I got a 1/4 audio cords that turn into audio/video jacks going into the Boss.Then from the Boss output jacks it connects to my stereo.

I just wanna know is this the correct way...

I hook my midi keyboard to my audio interface midi input right?

And just leave my boss the waY IT IS RIGHT?

I record tracks at ease from my comptuer to my boss then I can adjust how it sounds on my boss not to mention that it already had master setting from my Music software.

I love this set up ...the sound is clear with lots of power playing through my boss track recorder.

I love this Music Shyt...I can also hook my keyboard to my boss to play the sounds from my keyboard amp up right?

Then play wit the settings on the Boss.
I can create my own samples right?

Im out ......Im just excited about all the options I will have in the future...

B.K.

[brandondrury]

I'm not sure how you plan to integrate the Tascam with your computer rig. Unless there is some BIG reason to use both, it doesn't make sense to use both to me. Beyond portability, I'm not sure of the point. (There may be one, I just don't know what it is).

Obviously, you are still learning all the technical crap, so it may be a lot easier if you focused on thing at a time.

I've never used the Tascam or the Boss standalone boxes you mentioned so I really can't answer too many questions about those. (I'm not even sure how a person would program with those, but I guess you can).

As far as the keyboard is concerned, it's a super simply hookup. Connect the MIDI out of the keyboard into the MIDI of the soundcard. Done!

Of course, you'll need to make the M-Audio soundcard is setup in your recording software. (This can be a pain in the ass, but take your time with it, read the manual, and ask questions here if necessary).

I record tracks at ease from my comptuer to my boss then I can adjust how it sounds on my boss not to mention that it already had master setting from my Music software.

I'm not sure what you mean.

Brandon

[MR.BYTCH KILLA]

Originally Posted by brandondrury

I'm not sure how you plan to integrate the Tascam with your computer rig. Unless there is some BIG reason to use both, it doesn't make sense to use both to me. Beyond portability, I'm not sure of the point. (There may be one, I just don't know what it is).

Obviously, you are still learning all the technical crap, so it may be a lot easier if you focused on thing at a time.

I've never used the Tascam or the Boss standalone boxes you mentioned so I really can't answer too many questions about those. (I'm not even sure how a person would program with those, but I guess you can).

As far as the keyboard is concerned, it's a super simply hookup. Connect the MIDI out of the keyboard into the MIDI of the soundcard. Done!

Of course, you'll need to make the M-Audio soundcard is setup in your recording software. (This can be a pain in the ass, but take your time with it, read the manual, and ask questions here if necessary).


I'm not sure what you mean.

Brandon

Brandon I play my tracks from my computer which is hooked to the boss input audio jacks..I just push record on the boss and thats it...

I got a wave converter on the way in the mail Brandon.
I going both wayz cause I want to.....I wanna be different,,,Can I do that?

Thats all.....I just want it all B....Out

[brandondrury]

Brandon I play my tracks from my computer which is hooked to the boss input audio jacks..I just push record on the boss and thats it...

Okay, so you are hitting play on the recording software. Sound goes out of you soundcard / audio interface and into your Boss. Is this correct?

So you then record that signal from the computer into your Boss recorder and add your vocals to it.

That is certainly one way of doing it.

However, I think you are missing out in a few areas.
When you submix (or bounce) the track done into your Boss, you can't change the mix anymore. That would be a problem for me. I think it would be a big deal for rap. Let's say you decide that you want to change the song from synths to a bunch orchestra instruments. If you are workin within the computer, you just route your MIDI file to a different virtual instrument. It takes 2 seconds. With the Boss method, you would have to fire up the computer, change the sound, hit play, hit record in the boss, and then you'd find that your vocals probably don't line up. Boss may have a feature to fix this, but they may not. It's 50/50.

I'm pretty confident that tracking vocals on Cubase is going to kill using the Boss. I guess that depends on your work method. A lot of guys like to loop over a chorus 4 or 5 times. With Cubase, this is extremely simple to do. Comping the best vocal take together is super quick and easy. If some of the sibilance is too loud, I double click on the track highlight the offending sibilance and reduce it by a few dB. Done. If I want to slap on autotune, I can. If I want to use a third party compressor, I can.

If you want to be different, be my guest. However, I have no doubts that you would be more productive with a well setup computer rig. To me, trying to integrate both while you are still learning is about like trying to drive a car with just 3 wheels. It's different alright, but in this case it may be better to follow the trend and drive with all 4 wheels. That's just my opinion.

[MR.BYTCH KILLA]

Originally Posted by brandondrury

Okay, so you are hitting play on the recording software. Sound goes out of you soundcard / audio interface and into your Boss. Is this correct?

So you then record that signal from the computer into your Boss recorder and add your vocals to it.

That is certainly one way of doing it.

However, I think you are missing out in a few areas.
When you submix (or bounce) the track done into your Boss, you can't change the mix anymore. That would be a problem for me. I think it would be a big deal for rap. Let's say you decide that you want to change the song from synths to a bunch orchestra instruments. If you are workin within the computer, you just route your MIDI file to a different virtual instrument. It takes 2 seconds. With the Boss method, you would have to fire up the computer, change the sound, hit play, hit record in the boss, and then you'd find that your vocals probably don't line up. Boss may have a feature to fix this, but they may not. It's 50/50.

I'm pretty confident that tracking vocals on Cubase is going to kill using the Boss. I guess that depends on your work method. A lot of guys like to loop over a chorus 4 or 5 times. With Cubase, this is extremely simple to do. Comping the best vocal take together is super quick and easy. If some of the sibilance is too loud, I double click on the track highlight the offending sibilance and reduce it by a few dB. Done. If I want to slap on autotune, I can. If I want to use a third party compressor, I can.

If you want to be different, be my guest. However, I have no doubts that you would be more productive with a well setup computer rig. To me, trying to integrate both while you are still learning is about like trying to drive a car with just 3 wheels. It's different alright, but in this case it may be better to follow the trend and drive with all 4 wheels. That's just my opinion.

Brandon youll be surprised at what I could do using the boss or tascam....

I wit computer recording all the way but I would just like to switch it up sometimes and compare it to computer recording just to see if it sounds better.I going computer recording all the way Brandon.I just gotta have a track recorder in my studio ....it really make the studio look like a studio...My opinion...

I also want another keyboard ...a more profeessional one Ill just have two.I want my studio to look like a studio....thats all Im out B.K.


Then the feel of the track recorder is great....I love it...

[brandondrury]

Brandon youll be surprised at what I could do using the boss or tascam....

No I wouldn't. You can do all kinds of things in these little boxes. A great song could be captured on a cell phone and would still be great.

However, I don't think you realize how much more powerful you'd be with a full blown pro rig with Cubase, Reason, etc.

I wit computer recording all the way but I would just like to switch it up sometimes and compare it to computer recording just to see if it sounds better.

There is nothing wrong with testing to see which sounds better, but I don't think the difference is often testable. I mean, you really can't test workflow (at least not scientifically). The actual quality is probably going to be the same. Of course, you are stuck using the default compressor and other effects, so effect quality may be lower in the standalone box (but maybe not).

I just gotta have a track recorder in my studio ....it really make the studio look like a studio...My opinion...

Well, if you are buying gear for interior decorating, your opinion is your opinion and I can't argue with that. If you are trying to make music...well....

I want my studio to look like a studio....thats all

This is your perogative. When you are cranking less quality productions because you want your place to look pretty, don't blame me.

The deal is, anyone recording at home is drastically behind. We are playing catch up. The big boys have the best talent, the best engineers, the best gear, adequate places to work, amazing acoustical spaces, amazingly flat monitoring systems, and tons of other advantages.

Every $ is extremely important. When you waste your money on unicorn statues, midi controllers you don't use, etc you are channeling you resources towards junk instead towards making better music.

This is why my recording computer is always at least 1 year behind everyone else. It means I get to put that savings into solving more problems.

I've got about $60k in gear now and I have nowhere near enough to do what I really want to do. I'm not bragging, I'm just explaining that if you want to compete with the big boys, there are lots of things to buy and many of these things are not found in Musiciansfriend.

You are talking about buying just a single condenser mic, but you want to have both a computer recording rig and a standalone box? What about a computer recording rig and a $500 microphone...or at least 2 $250 mics?

You haven't mentioned mixing yet. Good luck mixing in a room with no acoustic treatment.

The list goes on and on. I'm all for looking like a real studio. The real studios you are talking about cost $2,000,000. You may want to focus on making that hit song first and then use that money to build your real studio.

Brandon