Ableton Live / Reason Rewire Crackle

[Hunter33]

Well I'm trying to currently output my tune (I posted a rough version of it in the Recording reviews section today) into Ableton and I'm having a nightmare.
Not sure why its happening but I'm getting crackle on the rendered recordings from Reason (Reason is slaved to ABleton so I can output/render my midi data).

I've tried changing the settings in preferences for Ableton for the input/output cards but it makes no difference and as far as I know it shouldn't anyway as its a straight program to program data transfer (ie not via cables).
Just stumped atm and feeling dumb.

Its annoying because theres no crackle on playback (pre-render into Ableton) no matter how much I crank up the volume. The channels aren't cranked up so as to go into the reds so its not that either. The only thing I can think of is that when I composed this in reason it had its own mastering setup post desk but pre PC interface and that maybe was doing something that has now become apparent as its out of the chain.

Gonna give up for today as my heads hurting from hitting the wall a few times.

[brandondrury]

Do you have the option of a real time export in Ableton? It won't be a permanent fix, but it could get you by, possibly.

Otherwise, I have no idea as I've never really used either of these programs.

Brandon

[Hunter33]

Originally Posted by brandondrury

Do you have the option of a real time export in Ableton? It won't be a permanent fix, but it could get you by, possibly.

Otherwise, I have no idea as I've never really used either of these programs.

Brandon

The problem occurred when recording guitar (mic'd up) realtime into Ableton via my new Delta1010 setup. Reason was running in the background rewired as a backing track to record to.

I have since re-installed Cubase sx (an old version I had lying about somewhere, was about time I started using it again anyway) and have chosen to export each track from reason solo'd individually and then import them (14 tracks) into CUbase so I can adjust them there. I tried direct recording into Cubase and did not get the same crackle issue.

This hasn't answered the question as to why I was getting crackle but tbh I can't be bothered to spend any more time trying to figure this out. I just want to get to work on the tracks.
I never did use Ableton for direct recording of instruments before much as when I had tried to before I believe I had the same crackle issue which I believed was down to my soundcard. However I have since got my Delta1010 and this issue is still happening.

I usually use SOundforge with the backing track running on headphones to record and that works fine.

I guess sometimes its best to just stick to what works for you.

Does make me wonder wether theres an issue with my Delta1010..hopefully not.

[rsadasiv]

1) Check that you are using the Delta ASIO driver in Live.
2) Go into the Delta control panel and check the buffer size settings. If the buffer is small (128 samples) try bumping the buffer up until you stop hearing the crackling.
3) If you can't get the crackling to go away, or the latency is prohibitively large, try rendering the Reason project or freezing some of the Live tracks.

[brandondrury]

The thing that is strange for me is the crackling only occurs when exporting. This takes the Delta 1010 out of the equation. It has to do with some kind of software issue.

Brandon

[Hunter33]

Originally Posted by rsadasiv

1) Check that you are using the Delta ASIO driver in Live.
2) Go into the Delta control panel and check the buffer size settings. If the buffer is small (128 samples) try bumping the buffer up until you stop hearing the crackling.
3) If you can't get the crackling to go away, or the latency is prohibitively large, try rendering the Reason project or freezing some of the Live tracks.

Well this is part of the problem in my setup.
I can't seem to get any audio when I switch ABletons Audio Input to M-Audio 1010 ASIO setting. Heres what I can select:


As you can see theres various ASIO settings but the M-Audio one results in no audio at all which totally confuses me.
The direct X and Multimedia ASIO sttings do work however.
Is this how it should be?

I did also up the buffer rate in the M-Audio control panel to 256 but not being able to use it anyway its not making much difference atm.

[Hunter33]

Furthermore I found some new settings:

I can only access these if I select ASIO Multimedia or Direct X in Ableton.



And if I click advanced I get these:


Disregard the current settings you see there as I'm messing around trying to get it to work but any advice appreciated.

My setup is basically all 8 Analogue outputs on my Delta1010 are fed into my SOundcraft desk. Ableton in the above screen shots is rewired to Reason so the audio inputs are coming from Reason.

Audio input can be seen on the Ableton mixer but there is no Audio unless I use a non M-Audio ASIO setting.
This may be normal seeming as I'm not getting my inputs from the M-Audio card but I thought that it should still be selected anyway..or am I wrong?

[Hunter33]

I'm kinda lost as to what I need to be doing with these settings seen above in the screenshots for my setup. Any tips, explanations or advice appreciated.
It should be obvious but this whole ASIO thing just threw me off.

[rsadasiv]

You might want to reinstall/upgrade the delta 1010 driver. Check the M-Audio site - I think the problem is with the card setup.

[brandondrury]

If you are not getting any audio at all with the Delta 1010, you may want to check this out. Soundcard Troubleshooting 101