Useless parameters

[C. Hanson]

Sorry if this sounds a bit stupid:
On my Yamaha AW1600, a 16 track hard-disc recorder, there are quite a few in-built effects and EQ models. Some of them are the standard chorus, flanger, reverb, etc and others are more esoteric which I'll probably not use.
The machine itself is one of those with different "layers" per screen and one finds oneself, eventually, at the bottom layer of an effect which is the really fine parameters.
Do you ever find parameters that have no apparent impact at all? For example, you turn a parameter from -10db to +10db (its whole range, perhaps) and there is no recognisable difference to the sound? I always think, "Why is it even there?"
Yet, there are clearly some parameters that are indispensible (rate and depth on the chorus, for example).
Is a home recordist better off using external effects on the way in, where the interface might be more intuitive, more of a buttons-and-knobs setup?

Any help or ideas?

[Brell]

I know what you're talking about! I don't have an answer, but have experienced this as well.

[Ethan Winer]

Some parameters don't do anything unless others are also set a certain way. For example, Vibrato Speed does nothing until you turn up the Vibrato Amount. And Compression Ratio does nothing until you lower the Threshold enough for the compression to kick in. I'm not familiar with that Yamaha model. What parameters are you referring to?

--Ethan

[whomper]

Originally Posted by C. Hanson

Sorry if this sounds a bit stupid:
On my Yamaha AW1600, a 16 track hard-disc recorder, there are quite a few in-built effects and EQ models. Some of them are the standard chorus, flanger, reverb, etc and others are more esoteric which I'll probably not use.
The machine itself is one of those with different "layers" per screen and one finds oneself, eventually, at the bottom layer of an effect which is the really fine parameters.
Do you ever find parameters that have no apparent impact at all? For example, you turn a parameter from -10db to +10db (its whole range, perhaps) and there is no recognisable difference to the sound? I always think, "Why is it even there?"
Yet, there are clearly some parameters that are indispensible (rate and depth on the chorus, for example).
Is a home recordist better off using external effects on the way in, where the interface might be more intuitive, more of a buttons-and-knobs setup?

Any help or ideas?

its for the golden eared stereophile types to use to brag about how they got a better mix and then pretend they can hear things that you cant cause you dont have a frammelwertz knob or even a plug in.

liek the button at the crosswalk for you to push to change the light. some things DO NOTHING, except make you think something is happening. reread the first paragraph.

[jagcmos]

Originally Posted by whomper

its for the golden eared stereophile types to use to brag about how they got a better mix and then pretend they can hear things that you cant cause you dont have a frammelwertz know or even a plug in.

liek the button at the crosswalk for you to push to change the light. some things DO NOTHING, except make you think something is happening. reread the first paragraph.

This thread had been dead for 3 months. Do you have a web spider that walks through the forum links and scans for word patterns that can be replied to using the phrase "golden eared stereophile types" ?

I have yet to encounter a electronic design that has "do nothing" contols and parameters.

[whomper]

Originally Posted by jagcmos

This thread had been dead for 3 months. Do you have a web spider that walks through the forum links and scans for word patterns that can be replied to using the phrase "golden eared stereophile types" ?

I have yet to encounter a electronic design that has "do nothing" contols and parameters.

then you never coded any software with hooks for future use
that did nothing YET
and had management tell you to ship it as is
in order to meet some meaningless deadline

or you never ran across easter eggs

or you never saw anyone scam or con someone else
instead of being 1000% honest

i just link to the topics that are shown on the bottom of messages or the home page -- no thread is ever dead unless the commander locks it -- you proved that by responding to this one too

[jagcmos]

Originally Posted by whomper

then you never coded any software with hooks for future use
that did nothing YET
and had management tell you to ship it as is
in order to meet some meaningless deadline

or you never ran across easter eggs

or you never saw anyone scam or con someone else
instead of being 1000% honest

i just link to the topics that are shown on the bottom of messages or the home page -- no thread is ever dead unless the commander locks it -- you proved that by responding to this one too

I have put hooks in my code, but the functionality is not accessible or visible to the end user.