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Old 02-05-2006, 03:41 PM
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Default THE secret to loud mixes

Alright dudes, I've got it figure out.

I now entirely know how to get drums to sound huge and loud in a mix without being too loud.

The secret is time.

(I'll have the article up soon when I get back from Nashville).

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Old 02-05-2006, 06:48 PM
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AWWW come on, you can't just leave us hanging like that!

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Old 02-06-2006, 09:39 PM
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Yeah, I can. I want more people to guess how this works before I spill the beans. Plus it will give me time to actually write a nice, detailed article on it.

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Old 02-06-2006, 10:14 PM
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The secret is time... eh? hmmmmm maybe it's how long you take to mic it up? I'm guessing that's the wrong answer.

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Old 02-06-2006, 10:32 PM
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Well, you do need to take plenty of time when recording your drums, but that isn't the trick.

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I'm going to guess it has something to do with a noise gate.
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Old 02-07-2006, 11:22 PM
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Release time?

I'm just throwing random crap up now ;D

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That was my second guess.
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:53 AM
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I had good success with parallel compression..

I have a nuke-group, a smash-group, a roomgroup and a drums group.

I comp every group individual.. the smashgroup is consisitng mostly the OH and any other room mic. the nukegroup is for snare and bass, the roomgroup for the whole drumkit again and then I comp the drums-group.

according to the article about preamps, I am more like the FIXER than creative
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Old 02-08-2006, 08:59 AM
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Default Re: THE secret to loud mixes

oh.. and I forgot something

on the masterbus if you are working with plugins, use 2 compressors. that helps for clarity. I did a personal shootout and had the best exp. with voxengo elephant first and second the waves L1 (I never tested the L2) as compressor and limiter. in fact, the L-series are the only softwarelimiters that work correctly (talking about VST plugs).

for the sonalksis users here:
the limiter sucks big time!! so does the brickwall from the bluetoobs bundle (nomad labs).

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