nasal sound....please help???

[BUDFREAK]

okay do they edit it later or do the vocalists of bands such as green day, plain white t's and linkin park(rapper) dont have nasal sounds at all..???
i've heard simple plan in a live performance(acoustic in a video) n they got this unusual nasal sound but theres none in the songs...is it the engineer that adjusts all this???please help??
thanks in advance

[Auals]

It's a singing style that most people normally get from not having proper training or technique. However, once you can sing properly, singing like that becomes a technique in itself. Chris from Saves The Day is really godo at it.

For someone like Pierre from simple plan, he sings like that on the albums too, they just hide it behind multiple takes to get rid of his whine. Listen to "no Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls", songs like "addicted" and "perfect" and his whine is there.

That's all he's doing, whining. If you put that whining sound to your voice and then sing, that's how you do it, you constrict your throat and sing to the back, it's bad for your voice. Don't do it.

EDIT:

Also, there are certain notes which are inbetween certain voices, or which are hard to reach for vocalists that will always sound nasally. For me it's High D-E, if I try and hit them in my chest voice, I'll make them sound gross, I have to hit them particularly to not make htem sound like that. The Guy from Linkin Park in Numb, when he sings the "I---'ve" bit, is singing nasally because he has to to hit that note as strongly as he does, as for "Shadow Of The Day", it's just how he sings, he doesn't use proper technique and he can't be bothered learning it. Where as the rapper, has great technique.

[BUDFREAK]

Originally Posted by Auals

It's a singing style that most people normally get from not having proper training or technique. However, once you can sing properly, singing like that becomes a technique in itself. Chris from Saves The Day is really godo at it.

For someone like Pierre from simple plan, he sings like that on the albums too, they just hide it behind multiple takes to get rid of his whine. Listen to "no Pads, No Helmets, Just Balls", songs like "addicted" and "perfect" and his whine is there.

That's all he's doing, whining. If you put that whining sound to your voice and then sing, that's how you do it, you constrict your throat and sing to the back, it's bad for your voice. Don't do it.

EDIT:

Also, there are certain notes which are inbetween certain voices, or which are hard to reach for vocalists that will always sound nasally. For me it's High D-E, if I try and hit them in my chest voice, I'll make them sound gross, I have to hit them particularly to not make htem sound like that. The Guy from Linkin Park in Numb, when he sings the "I---'ve" bit, is singing nasally because he has to to hit that note as strongly as he does, as for "Shadow Of The Day", it's just how he sings, he doesn't use proper technique and he can't be bothered learning it. Where as the rapper, has great technique.

thanks for the help.....appreciate it a lot

[Auals]

Originally Posted by BUDFREAK

thanks for the help.....appreciate it a lot

It's all good. Let me know if you want to know anything else.

[BUDFREAK]

Originally Posted by Auals

It's all good. Let me know if you want to know anything else.

thanx A LOT!! for offering help.....really cool of u.....
now...i've been trying to sing from the belly n i can do that on chords but when i try to sing songs such as let me take u there by plain white t's its the nasal sound again...i can hit two octaves with my belly voice itself...
do u kno any techniques maybe....that'll help me control all this..??
thanks...

[Auals]

Originally Posted by BUDFREAK

thanx A LOT!! for offering help.....really cool of u.....
now...i've been trying to sing from the belly n i can do that on chords but when i try to sing songs such as let me take u there by plain white t's its the nasal sound again...i can hit two octaves with my belly voice itself...
do u kno any techniques maybe....that'll help me control all this..??
thanks...

Yes, scales. And correct breathing, breathing with your diaphragm will help you sing stronger BUT it won't help you sing without that tone. Sing scales, do you notice how your lower range (like really low) doesn't sound nasally? That's the sound you need to have when you're singing high. Hum to yourself, and try and hum so that the front of your mouth vibrates (you're aiming to make your nose vibrate but if you can get the front of your mouth then it's all good), I don't mean by pushing hard, I mean by aiming your voice. That's how you should be singing, by aiming there. Once you can hum like that, start running major scales while singing like. OPEN YOUR MOUTH! RELAX YOUR BODY! And don't constrict your throat, if you have to push too hard to hit the notes, then they're otu of your range for now. Ever listen to "Konstantine" by Something Corporate? The early versions? The choruses are annoying because Andrew had trouble hitting the F, that's how you sound when you sing normally. YOU DON'T WANT THAT! It's BAD FOR YOU! So practice, get a teacher. It's the best advice I can give you, they'll kick the shit out of your nasal habit, because that's what it is, a habit of bad technique.

Practice the humming thing first, and then singing scales with your mouth open wide and while breathing properly. If you do that, you'll get rid of the nasal thing, RECORD YOURSELF SINGING THE SCALES! Work out where you're good, where you're bad, where you sound nasal, where you don't, and try and kill all the parts that sound nasal.

Start on C major (3rd fret A string of your guitar or middle C on a piano, though if that's too high, or too low, figure out what's easier) then do a major scale (one octave) up and then back. That's all.

EDIT: plus, the plain white t's songs are high, it's like singing Yellowcard, it's not easy, practice on something similar, or make the song lower. As a rule to live by, you're not chris conley, singing with a nasal tone won't sound good.

[BUDFREAK]

Originally Posted by Auals

Yes, scales. And correct breathing, breathing with your diaphragm will help you sing stronger BUT it won't help you sing without that tone. Sing scales, do you notice how your lower range (like really low) doesn't sound nasally? That's the sound you need to have when you're singing high. Hum to yourself, and try and hum so that the front of your mouth vibrates (you're aiming to make your nose vibrate but if you can get the front of your mouth then it's all good), I don't mean by pushing hard, I mean by aiming your voice. That's how you should be singing, by aiming there. Once you can hum like that, start running major scales while singing like. OPEN YOUR MOUTH! RELAX YOUR BODY! And don't constrict your throat, if you have to push too hard to hit the notes, then they're otu of your range for now. Ever listen to "Konstantine" by Something Corporate? The early versions? The choruses are annoying because Andrew had trouble hitting the F, that's how you sound when you sing normally. YOU DON'T WANT THAT! It's BAD FOR YOU! So practice, get a teacher. It's the best advice I can give you, they'll kick the shit out of your nasal habit, because that's what it is, a habit of bad technique.

Practice the humming thing first, and then singing scales with your mouth open wide and while breathing properly. If you do that, you'll get rid of the nasal thing, RECORD YOURSELF SINGING THE SCALES! Work out where you're good, where you're bad, where you sound nasal, where you don't, and try and kill all the parts that sound nasal.

Start on C major (3rd fret A string of your guitar or middle C on a piano, though if that's too high, or too low, figure out what's easier) then do a major scale (one octave) up and then back. That's all.

EDIT: plus, the plain white t's songs are high, it's like singing Yellowcard, it's not easy, practice on something similar, or make the song lower. As a rule to live by, you're not chris conley, singing with a nasal tone won't sound good.

thanks a lot...now 1 more question..do people sounding different,like james blunt n RHCP use different breathing techniques or use different techniques while singing??
thanks a lot for the help

[Auals]

Originally Posted by BUDFREAK

thanks a lot...now 1 more question..do people sounding different,like james blunt n RHCP use different breathing techniques or use different techniques while singing??
thanks a lot for the help

Everyone's tone is different. How they sing is also up to them, mostly no. Everyone who is a proffesional singer SHOULD have had profesional training at some point, I know some labels that make their artists see a singing coach and I know some bands who, once they get signed, decide that seeing a coach is a good idea. SO MOSTLY, proffesional singers will know how to breathe properly.

Singing techniques is different, they are normally style prone. So you wouldnt' sing an RHCP song the same way you'd sing a James Blunt song (given your examples).

However mostly, it's the fact that every singer has a different tone to their voice which is just how they are. Everone speaks with a different voice and singings the same.

[BUDFREAK]

Originally Posted by Auals

Everyone's tone is different. How they sing is also up to them, mostly no. Everyone who is a proffesional singer SHOULD have had profesional training at some point, I know some labels that make their artists see a singing coach and I know some bands who, once they get signed, decide that seeing a coach is a good idea. SO MOSTLY, proffesional singers will know how to breathe properly.

Singing techniques is different, they are normally style prone. So you wouldnt' sing an RHCP song the same way you'd sing a James Blunt song (given your examples).

However mostly, it's the fact that every singer has a different tone to their voice which is just how they are. Everone speaks with a different voice and singings the same.

thanks a lot..been a big help..thanks for all of it...

[Auals]

Originally Posted by BUDFREAK

thanks a lot..been a big help..thanks for all of it...

It's all good. Hope it helps.