I'm looking to jam with 4-5 guys, without disturbing the neighbors or blowing out my ears (anymore). I am a drummer and will be purchasing my first Electronic kit. Would like some feedback as to the most efficient way to have a living room rehearsal mixed through the headphones , ability to run out to a active speaker system for live shows and possibly record.
Anyone familiar with JamHub? Looks good but I'm not sure whether I can take out and into a recording program.
Hey Rob, welcome to the site. I don't have anything much to add to this. I don't have the JamHub but I would think that you would go into the computer first then out to the hub. They have a few good videos on their site that goes through the system.
Hey Rob. Again, welcome to the site.
I much prefer the Behringer Powerplay p16 adn p-16i monitoring system, especially if you're looking into a hybrid recording scenario. The base unit is only a few hundred dollars and it has some very distinct advantages. The unit allows customized monitor mixes of upto 16 channels...and the best part is that everyone can control their own monitor mix independently of every one elses. It can be fed via ADAT lightpipe, which allows it to send and transmit digital signal from your recording rig with much less cabling and headache. The CAT5 distro cables carry all 16 channels to each player at a cost your frickin can't beat.
Behringer is synonymous with crappy sounding un-reliable junk. I think this particular unit is not that bad.
For rehearsal purposes, simply create and save a template inside your DAW. When your guys come over to the living room, they simply plug everything into a multi-channel interface and you're up and running. If your guitarist is willing to use a Line6 pod, you won't even need speakers. If you want it even simpler, you have him plug strait into the interface, and use built in amp-sim software.
Ive got the jamhub. It's like a headphone amplifier with mixer included. No computers or extra equipment required. With an electric kit, all you need to do is go straight from headphone out on your drum module into the jamhub and you can then control your own sound, everyone else's and different effects. Each person gets their own specific monitor mix.
The inputs on the jamhub are stereo. Thus, you need to use TRS leads or you won't receive sound on both sides of your headphones. If guitarists plug into the jamhub, make sure they do not use the direct out of their heads if they have tube amp, because you may fry the transformer in the amplifier. They can use a load box or sometimes the effects send on their amps. Bass can DI straight in if you want.
Each person also can have a vocal mic each with their own channel. So you can plug in your instruments as well as an XLR in on top. Very handy even if you aren't singing and you've got something to say.
The external input on the jamhub also lets you connect either your laptop, iphone, iPad, metronome into the device so you can play along with backing tracks or click tracks.
It's handy because of the efficiency of the device, however, cost a hefty amount for its advantages. You pay the price for ease-of-use for sure. As I said earlier, it's basically just a mixer with more emphasis on the aux or monitoring system..
Hope that information is useful.
We have two of these at work (i work at a school btw)
As Jeremy has covered most of its advantages I wont need to reiterate, but i will describe how we use it.
Students use their iphones with amplitube for guitars and bass, some use a pod. a couple of vocalists use vocalive on their iphones too.
the electric kit goes in stereo and there is no midi thru the jamhub.
this is all great for rehersal and writing of songs and keeps the overall volume to a minimum for nearby classes.
It makes for a nice compact and tidy arrangement so it works well for us.
However thats all its good for. your only option for recording is a stereo feed out to a rec device.
All good for demo's so the kids can take compositions away to listen to but thats as far as it goes.
Sometimes we do get pretty sick demo's out of it to be honest.
the only downside in our situation is headphone cables.. we go through a ton of headphones as kids are not the most subtle of creatures.
i have been trialing wireless cans with a group there that I trust and even though the sound quality is a bit low it is working out better economically for the department.
Thanx Guys for the input. With regards to recording using the jamhub.... is there a stereo out of the unit or a usb port or flash drive where I might then be able to transfer to a program like Cubase on my computer to mix?
The two models that can record are the greenroom and the tourbus.
The greenroom can usb to computer and the tourbus can usb to computer and/or an SD card.
I think the tourbus also has a metronome? not sure on that.
Pretty sure you can only record a stereo feed though. does not multitrack.
one workaround we tried was to split the headphone feed for each player off to a 16 i/o, however it meant isolationg or mixing out everyone else so the player could only hear themselves. kinda defeats the purpose but we did get our multitracks. more like stems actually as each track was stereo including the drums.
oh and you can just line out from the "budget" model.