Iceverb And Magic Vocals!

[shylessness4924]

So I've watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRCmDof4c4s

And it's talking about 2 effects that you have to BUY. they help you get a 3-d depth and some vocal "magic"

I was wondering if any1 who works with Cubase or Sonar knew how do recreate those effects with the effects that you already have when you instal the programs.


thanks for any help



alex

[DT Chris]

As he said in the video, it's a 'combination of effects'. I'm sure you can reproduce this with your standard EQ, Comp, Reverb & Delay.

[scribe]

Hey there,
I know yhis isnt exactly what your looking for but check this out http://www.dasample.com/index.php?show=glaceverb
There are a couple of really nice reverbs in this. And its free...
Cheers.

[shylessness4924]

Originally Posted by scribe

Hey there,
I know yhis isnt exactly what your looking for but check this out http://www.dasample.com/index.php?show=glaceverb
There are a couple of really nice reverbs in this. And its free...
Cheers.

Thanks !

I'll look foward to use that with my vocals!



alex

[brandondrury]

It's always hard to tell apples from bowling balls on Youtube and Myspace. This is the main reason I haven't pursued these (besides the fact that I have ZERO time).

And it's talking about 2 effects that you have to BUY. they help you get a 3-d depth and some vocal "magic"

I was wondering if any1 who works with Cubase or Sonar knew how do recreate those effects with the effects that you already have when you instal the programs.

The first is simply a reverb. It appears to be a pretty decent one, but again, it's Youtube. There demonstration is flawed because the levels are drastically different with the effect on or off in both cases, but you can get an idea of what they do. I'm not exactly sure what's going on with the vocal thingy. I'd need to use it on my own mixes to get an idea as their demo doesn't really illustrate what it does exactly and it could be doing a billion things.

A million billion songs have been recorded without these two products. They are just one example of zillions of products out there. A good reverb is a requirement for just about any mixing project. A vocalizer majig is is not necessarily required, but may help.

In the most basic of terms, a reverb is a reverb, an EQ is an EQ, and a compressor is a compressor. You can get pretty close with just about any product. In fact, there are cases where a cheap Art reverb (as in the hardware box) is more desireable than a $3,000 Lexicon for some people in some applications. I think the same probably applies to plugins as well.

With that said, there are reasons that a people still love Neve 1073 preamps / eq's. There are reasons that the LA-2A compressor is still a huge deal. There are reasons that a guy like Michael Wagener has $500k in recording gear. The tools often do help out. The right saw blade is lifesaver when you are building X thingy out of wood.

So, in other words. Can you achieve the exact reverb as the slide guitar has in this video with stock Cubase plugins? Maybe. Maybe not? You may acheive a better sound. You may not be able to get close in terms of "lushness" or "prettiness" of the reverb. You just have to find out for yourself. I think the difference, especially in the final mix, will probably be fairly subtle unless the reverb is extremely loud.

I'm of the opinion that learning to use the gear you have IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT than simply buying gear like crazy without any clue how to use it. I'm at a point where I plan to make some MAJOR plugin upgrades soon myself but that's only because I've been using the same Waves plugins since 2002 (I think) and I'll know the difference.

Brandon