Guitar Re-amping question

[clarka]

Hello everyone,

I would like to Re-amp a digital take, but every time I re-amp, the sound coming from the amp is very dull. Do I need some sort of reverse DI box. If so, does anyone have any suggestions, or know of any schematics that could be useful?

Thanks,
Clark

[tacman7]

I use a virtual amp (modeling) and that's what I listen to when I record buy I record dry.

I used to do the same thing when I was using a hardware modeling box. I run my guitar through my mic pre into the computer where it was recorded and out to the modeler where I heard it ( I didn't monitor what the computer was recording.) If you do it that way it should sound exactly the same, playing/recording and playback, did for me.

A good preamp is important though, on the way into the computer.

[GnzlO]

I think the problem comes from your amp or the interface you are using, more exactly the way you are doing that re-amp, can you explain better the way you do it?

[garageband]

You do need to get an unbalanced signal to your amp. Taking half of a balanced signal or roping them together will give you a dull, compromised sound. Radial makes great boxes for that sort of thing. I like the effect of the JDI that I have out to the amp and back through a mic or two. As far as dullness, twist your knob until you find happiness: EQ, compression, delay, etc. BTW, this is a great technique for getting a realistic electric piano sound: sending your digital feed to a real live amp, mic'ed with a real live microphone. Also, because the dynamic range of the playback is narrower than played live, try a condenser mic rather a dynamic (which are naturally more compressive).

Back to the guitar problem, the signal chain into the computer is NOT that important. Reamping is not a hi-fi experience. You are going for effect. Reamping is also a great quick way to smooth out digital edits. I think you are on the right track. Software guitar amp modelers all sound a bit two dimensional and reamping is a nice way to get some depth and reality into an otherwise entirely processed sound.

[tacman7]

Originally Posted by garageband

You are going for effect. Reamping is also a great quick way to smooth out digital edits.

I guess we're getting into what is meant by reamping? or what is Reamping.

What I was thinkng:

The process of recording your guitar dry. If you record your guitar with effects or mic'd through an amp etc. Your basically stuck with it.

If you record your dry guitar, which is a recording of the guitar the way the guitar sounds right from the guitar. It is therefore interchangeable with the live guitar either one should sound the same. So if your in the last stages of mixing down your song and you find you don't like the way the guitar sounds in the mix you don't have to go back and do the guitar all over again just send the dry guitar through different effects/modeler/mic'd amp etc.

However you want to treat the guitar the process of recording dry to give yourself the option of changing things later: Reamping.

I thought that's what some were calling the process but I might have got it switched around with something else.

[garageband]

When you send the signal out of the digital domain to be run through an amplifier (of any sort), that is reamping. If you bounce a track that has non-agreeing edit points or EQ mismatches, sending in through an amplifier ( pre- or guitar or whatever) will both soften those clicks and color the track in uniform way to disguise the original EQ mismatches.
You don't need to limit your conception of reamping to only an unprocessed signal.

[tommytomatoe]

HELO,
Would someone PLEASE go over the basic process of REAMPING from A TO Z?
In other words how to do it and any benefits, plus when it's not feasable. I am using Pro tools and heard of this but was never explained exactly how to.
Take Care,
TOMMY.. ....

[tacman7]

Me and Garageband differ in our interpretation of what reamping is, I would cite:

Harmony Central - Re-Amping Basics for Guitar

FaderWear Guides - Guitar Re-Amping Guide

Re-amp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These links are also instructional about how to do it.

[adorian]

Basically you get a DI box, record your guitar direct into the tape/disc while monitoring the recorded signal on an amp. Then you take the signal out of the guitar and feed it into an amp, you mic the amp and record again.
The cool thing about it is that you can slap as many amps as you want because you have the initial performance recorded clean.

[Vulconizer]

Been playing with this a bit recently. We're using Amplitude- Jimi Hendrix and I really like it. Looking forward to messing around with it some more in the future.