Can anyone send me InaGaddaDaVida?

[earthboundaudio]

Hey folks,

I'm producing a classic rock imaging pack for radio broadcasting and one of the images is going to be "The drums that make you go numb" I need to have a clip of InaGaddaDaVidda on it of course, but I don't have the song on cd and can't buy it off of iTunes or anything like that b/c it will be in MP3 format. So, I was wondering if someone that has it could upload to my server in cd quality format. I can create a temporary ftp account and give you the password to load it up... or you could probably just email it to me. I can't really offer anything to you for it, but I can give you karma!

I know people are probably going to give me shit saying it's pirating or whatever, but... whatever, I'm only using like a four second clip from it that will be going to broadcast on radio stations so I don't really consider it to be pirating. Thanks to anyone that can help me out!

Scott

[randy]

Cool, I was thinking of that song when I read your other post, but sorry I don't have it. I'll think some more and get back to you on some more songs.

Surely there's a catchy Bonham fill you can use. Not one jumps out at me though, off the top of my head. "Frankenstein" was a good drum song (Edgar Winter I believe). The intro the Eagles "Take the money & run" was a pretty good one. Eh, I'll think some more............

[phangeaux]

Yeah, the good ol' 60's stuff!

I happened to encounter the bass player for Iron Butterfly on Sunset Strip back in the late 60's or possibly it was 1971. Very long hair, bib overalls and an old pick-up truck. Maybe he's from Missouri, LOL.

I did notice quite a few people from Missouri here. It's a beautiful state. I've been down in your area before.

Scott, I don't know if that old album has been remastered or is even available on a CD (probably is).

I doubt if the Iron Butterfly would mind your intended use, they are still touring, playing tomorrow in Germany, and they could probably use the free promotion, so you might want to writte to them via their website and ask.

I don't know who owns the rights to the song- HOPEFULLY, they do but as crazy as this business is, it's hard to tell!

Here is their official website:
http://www.ironbutterfly.com/

CHECK OUT THIS QUOTE FROM THE WEBSITE:

>>In July of 1968, Iron Butterfly released the monumental LP, In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, featuring the 17:05 minute side-long track that shook the entire music industry with its phenomenal reception. 'Vida outsold every record in the history of recorded music within the first year of its release (over eight million copies sold) and therefore outgrew and outsold the standard of the music industry's "Gold Album" award. For this achievment, Iron Butterfly was subsequently awarded: The Industry's Very First "Platinum Album"! This historic award was created and presented by then-president of ATCO Records Ahmet Ertegun, who went on to become the current CEO of the WEA Group. Most recently, "Vida" received the Multi-Platinum award.


In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, stayed on the charts for 140 weeks, with 81 weeks in the Top Ten. To date the album has sold in excess of 30 million copies and remains an undisputed classic in the archives of rock with DJ's and audiophiles worldwide.<<

[TAlderson]

I'm sorry, I have to comment on this, but The Steve Miller Band did "Take the Money and Run."

I'd look at Bonham or Moon, they are two of the best drummers to ever grace a stage.

-Tyler

[phangeaux]

I am not a drummer but was very fortunate to have seen CREAM on live tour in 1967.? They were totally awesome, that just 3 musicians could put out so much sound is amazing!? Ginger Baker was very powerful throughout and seemed like he could blow the doors off of the colleseum.? Even from the back of the colleseum, (as I had been walking around) every kick seemed like a shotgun blast, to the extent that I can still see flashes of light when I think about it., especially during his solo!,? ? This was? one of the best performances I have ever seen.? ?I saw Led Zep live in 1971, San Diego Colleseum and I don't even remember the drums! (i wasn't stoned for either concert, btw)? Comparing those two concerts, in my opinion Ginger Baker would have blown Bonham right off the stage.?

I was really dissapointed in Led Zep. I had gone to hear one song, 'You Shook Me' and they didn't even play it!? That was a BUMMER.? ?


That is just my very limited experience? and I? wanted to mention Ginger Baker.

It seems to me that I read they had the dampers on Ginger Baker for recording purposes

I never did get to see the Who in live performance, another powerful group.

[earthboundaudio]

Thanks for all the feedback.. I think what I'm going to do is just tape it off of the radio. One of the stations here plays it at 9pm every Saturday night. (back in high school we used go park a car and get high to it every Saturday night).

[phangeaux]

I don't understand what a 'classic rock imaging pack' is nor why you can't somehow use an mp3 file.

Are these clips that they to introduce a show when it comes on the air and like when they return from breaks?

For such a short clip (4 seconds or so) InaGaddaDaVida is probably the mot or easiest recognized drum piece from the 'classic rock' era.

[TAlderson]

What about the solo from "Wipeout?" Everyone knows that song...

-Tyler

[phangeaux]

What about the solo from "Wipeout?" Everyone knows that song...

-Tyler

Yeah, everyone does know it. I even know how to play that one with my hands, LOL.? ?I am not sure that fits into 'Classic Rock'? To me that is 'Surf Music' by a surfer band and clearly is about 'wiping out' on a surf board. Surf music was a distinct genre back in those days. and had an identifiable sound.

Is it 'Classic Rock'?? I would say that it is certainly a Classic.?

I am finding that there are alot of different opinions about exactly 'What is Classic Rock?'? Everyone wants to think that their own favorite music is 'Classic Rock'..? I definately have my own definitions and no one elses opinions could shake that because I lived through the whole era, I was born in 1950, started playing music(trumpet first)? in 1957 and guitar in about 1960.? I have very set opinions on what Classic Rock is and what it is Not.?

HOWEVER, here-in lies a HUGE PROBLEM.? That is the use of the word 'CLASSIC'? it is so broad by definition that virtually everything has to be included, even what we called 'Bubble-gum music' would have to be included..

The term 'Classic Rock'? really should, and originally did? refer to an ERA of SOCIAL CHANGE where Rock Music? played a huge and element role, greater than ever before.? Essentially we are talking about the 60's movements with the rebellion against the status quo and the War in Viet Nam, Spiritual awakening,? mystic crystal revelations, the dawning of the age of Aquarius (to borrow some descriptive lyrics).? ?It was a Revolutionary Consciousness to change the world. It was NOT just simply music it was Politics, Philosophy and Lifestyle!!? It was without doubt one of the most amazing periods in history when it comes to the integration of music and culture.

The early 1970's was the beginning of the end of this Classic period as I have described above.? The political administration (Nixon Regime) was very oppressive and the 60's movements were effectively squashed via the DEA, FBI, COINTELPRO, etcetera. Cold winds now blew accross the once bright and colorful street scenes of Haight Ashbury, Sunset Strip, etc. now depressed areas and there were only a few reminders of their former glory.? I was there during the glorious times and afterward and experienced that oppression directly as well.

Enough said for now on that topic BUT the real problem here is that the term CLASSIC ROCK is really useless.? CLASSIC can apply to anything and everything recorded during a given era whether it was revolutionary or not.? To me the 'Classic' only refers to that revolutionary stuff that was an essential element of the whole 60's movements? and was a part of the whole revolutionary mindset and awakenings of that era,? BUT, I cannot make a rule that defines what Classic' means to someone else.

For others, frivolous 'Bubble-gum' music may be 'Classic Rock'.? Lyrics like 'Sugar, honey honey, you are my candy girl and I'm hung up on you..."? is Bubble Gum music to me, but to someone who likes that song it could br considered 'Classic Rock' to them.

The bottom line in my opinion is that the terminology 'C;assic Rock' is virtually useless because in fact it can refer to ANYTHING.

Hey, before 'Wipe Out' the classic? drum solo was 'Caravan' first recorded by Duke Ellington band in 1937 and there have probably been a hundred different recordings of that one since.? It is very cool.?

[lumpy]

phangeaux,
I like the old Sandy Nelson records: Teen Beat, Let There Be Drums. My pop had a copy and I literally wore it out when I was a kid. Great drums sounds for the early 60's!
Speaking of Ginger Baker, have you heard the new Cream reunion album? Ginger rocks as always. It was refreshing to hear Clapton actually have to play guitar again.
Lump

[lumpy]

InaGaddaDaVida: you either love it or hate it.
My dad had a copy of this album also. Most folks don't know this record had a side one, and it's usually immaculate.
I never liked the song because it's just too damn long. It's a decent riff and would've made a nice three and a half minute rocker. Oh yeah and drum solo's are boring.
The drummer for Iron Butterfly was, and probably is, Ron Bushy. I thought he looked like a Klingon off the original Star Trek show in his picture on the back cover of the album. He was also famous for endorsing Fibes Drums, a clear acyrilic shelled drum that was a precurser to the more famous Ludwig Vistalites.
In the late 60's the Butterfly toured with Vanilla Fudge and Led Zeppelin in supporting roles. Don't think that Bonzo wasn't paying attention whenever Bushy performed his infamous drum solo.
I always thought Ringo's 16 second drum solo on The End from Abbey Road was a condensed version of the solo from InaGaddaDaVida.
The best thing about InaGaddaDaVida is that it inspired a classic gag on The Simpsons whenever Bart hands out sheet music to "In The Garden of Eden-a" before Sunday services and the poor old organist about collapses after 20 minutes of work.
Lump

[phangeaux]

Hey Lump,

No, I haven't heard the reunion album but I heard on a local radio station that tickets for the reunion concert at the Royal Albert Hall were going for $15,000 just for like, a back row seat, or at least not a good seat. I imagine that in the Royal Albert Hall the acoustics are extraordinary and it might make little difference.

I was checking out Ginger Baker's activities via his website a couple of years ago, pretty interesting- world music, African drumming etc. He also has an interesting biography.

As I mentioned, I am not a drummer but Ginger Baker seemed very powerful as a drummer.

Now, with regard to InaGaddaDaVida and 'long drum solos' or long music, of that era (sometimes a whole album side). Keep this in mind. That late 60's music often was created for a trance effect, for people who were sitting around smoking weed or tripping on LSD and the music was intended to 'take you for a ride' sort of a trance with visual aspects as well. In that state of consciousness with increased or enhanced sensory perception music has color and texture and music could literally paint beautiful and colorful images and patterns, even produce extraordinary colorful and even spiritual visions, etc., so this is part of what that music was all about. Yes that could be boring to someone who is not under the influence of something that very much enhances the sound. The music went way beyond what we commonly perceive as 'sound', to include visual effects as well. Anyhow it was that trance sort of effect that the music was created for. Actually any good music will have that effect under those circumstances.

With effects and stuff drums can be quite extraordinary instruments. I was checking out alot of drum stuff a few years ago, 'Spirit drums' 'native american drums', african drums, far eastern and middle eastern drumming etc.

Not long ago, on the radio, I heard the most amazing and best drumming that I have ever heard and I wish I could tell you who the drummers were. It sounded like drumming from India but I think it was actually a group from the Middle East. It was extraordinary.

In fact I spent a couple of hours on the web, even at the radio station websirte to see if I could find out what the groupand recording was.

I will have to call that lady at the radio station sometime and ask her.

[phangeaux]

I always thought Ringo's 16 second drum solo on The End from Abbey Road was a condensed version of the solo from InaGaddaDaVida.
The best thing about InaGaddaDaVida is that it inspired a classic gag on The Simpsons whenever Bart hands out sheet music to "In The Garden of Eden-a" before Sunday services and the poor old organist about collapses after 20 minutes of work.
Lump

LOL, that is funny about the Simpsons episode. I have only seen maybe 2 Simpsons episodes, if that. I haven't had a TV since 1989-90 and definately do not want one.

I hardly recall Ringo ever playing much of a solo. Although the Beatles were a big influence on me in the beginning,'The British Rock Invasion' as they call it, by the 1970's I had a complete turn around and couldn't stand the beatles- they were fake as heck, there is some politics involved in that, 'they're only in it for the money' thing, but I don't want to get into that here. I can't stand the Beatles now, except for a few good Lennon songs that I would like to do, namely, 'Oh Darlin' and 'Helter Skelter'. whenever I hear Beatles on the radio I immediately change the station and I especially can't stand Paul McCartney.

I remember those Sandy Nelson records :-)

Also as a side note about wearing out a record: I got a 45rpm single of Jimi Hendrix playing Red House. I was living in my parent's basement at the time. I played that record over and over again constantly for many hours on end day in and day out for months!. It must have drove my parents crazy, but I actually did wear out that record. I could still play that song over and over again and probably never get tired of it.

That song and 'You Shook Me' from Led Zep I, were the two top most influencial songs for me as far as playing guitar. Blues is where my roots are. I'm going to work hard this year on playing ability and hopefully be able to play that well. My objective is songwiting though.

Later,

Phangeaux

[TAlderson]

I hardly recall Ringo ever playing much of a solo.? Although the Beatles were a big influence on me in the beginning,'The British Rock Invasion' as they call it, by the 1970's? I had a complete turn around and couldn't stand the beatles- they were fake as heck, there is some politics involved in that, 'they're only in it for the money' thing, but I don't want to get into that here.? ? I can't stand the Beatles now, except for a few good Lennon songs that I would like to do, namely, 'Oh Darlin'? and 'Helter Skelter'.? whenever I hear Beatles on the radio I immediately change the station and? I especially can't stand Paul McCartney.

Just a note about the "only in it for the money thing..."

It's funny when people say that, because I think that if the music is okay, it's fine if they just want to make a profit. Hell, Bach, Beethoven, and Hayden didn't make music because they wanted to. They did it to make money. In fact, most classical pieces were commissioned by someone, and weren't based on much inspiration (except for the revelation that they needed money to eat...). I like the Beatles, and while they may have had some problems, I think their music is still as good as ever.

-Tyler

[lumpy]

Phangeaux,
Don't mean to sound like a dickhole, but "Helter Skelter" and "Oh, Darlin'" were both written by Paul McCartney, not John Lennon. No big deal, it just reminded me of Frank Sinatra claiming "Something" was his favorite Lennon/McCartney song.

I guess I take my Beatleology a little too seriously.

A classic spoof on the Beatles is Eric Idle's "The Rutles: All You Need Is Money". Check it out if you can find it.

Ringo Rulz!

Lump

[phangeaux]

LOL on the Rutles, Lumpy, I vaguely recall it (never saw the film) and I was just reading reviews it.

I was thinking 'John Lennon' on those songs, obviously for the vocals, in that respect they were Lennon songs in my mind. I am disappointed now that Paul had anything to do with them, other than playing bass, that's a bummer. I can't stand Paul McCartney so my appreciation for those songs has now hit rock bottom.

I was just listening to an interview on NPR last week, with an author who recently published a book on the Beatles. He talked mostly about how Paul McCartney was a pain in the neck for the rest of the group, for example going into the studio at off hours and altering tracks that other members had been working on, even independantly from the group's work, to suit his own fancies. I think he said that George quit once as a direct result, and maybe Ringo too, and it was a source of conflict which was, as I understood it, a key reason for the break-up, not to mention Yoko getting her nose into the middle of everything.

Anyhow, you might be interested in the book. In fact, here is the NPR interview, etc. You can click on 'Listen' up at the top to hear the radio interview and read excerps from the book (900 pages eeeks!).

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5029971

Phangeaux,
Don't mean to sound like a dickhole, but "Helter Skelter" and "Oh, Darlin'" were both written by Paul McCartney, not John Lennon. No big deal, it just reminded me of Frank Sinatra claiming "Something" was his favorite Lennon/McCartney song.

I guess I take my Beatleology a little too seriously.

A classic spoof on the Beatles is Eric Idle's "The Rutles: All You Need Is Money". Check it out if you can find it.

Ringo Rulz!

Lump

[TAlderson]

I am not a drummer but was very fortunate to have seen CREAM on live tour in 1967.? They were totally awesome, that just 3 musicians could put out so much sound is amazing!? Ginger Baker was very powerful throughout and seemed like he could blow the doors off of the colleseum.?

Yeah, I just saw the PBS special on the Cream concert in London. Damn, he really did an amazing job. Ginger Baker is definitely up there among the best.

-Tyler