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    Hi,

    I trust you are well.

    Maybe you can help me. I have Burmester hifi setup (Burmester 082 integrated amp and Burmester 061 CD player), and I plan to stream hi rez - and Spotify files from my HP /Compaq 8510w laptop via my Burmester 061. The 061 DAC has 3 digital inputs (one Toslink and two RCA 75 ohm inputs). Burmester Audiosysteme GmbH

    I have been reccommended to use my Firewire port on my laptop (1394a) into a FireWire Audio Interface and connect this to my 061 DAC. How does this sound?

    I would also like the interface to have a jitter reduction system to optain best possible sound. What kind of interface do you reccommend? I have looked at Focusrite Saffire Pro 24 FireWire Audio Interface since it has the jitter elimination technology. What about M-Audio. MOTU, etc?

    I look forward to hearing back from you.


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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Hahahaha
    Sorry, I have tp laugh.
    How much is that Burmester stuff worth?
    If you're on a budget maybe you should look at something like this The ADC1 - Benchmark Media Systems, Inc.

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    Hi!

    Burmester is not that bad pricewise in Norway. And the sound is top notch. The point is that I would like to stream music from the net from my laptop, and the 061 DAC is there already. And as most DAC's you will not have a Firewire input. Only coaksial or toslink. I will check out Benchmark, but I really only need an interface from firewire to RCA...

    Cheeers, ToffenG




    Originally Posted by magno
    Hahahaha
    Sorry, I have tp laugh.
    How much is that Burmester stuff worth?
    If you're on a budget maybe you should look at something like this The ADC1 - Benchmark Media Systems, Inc.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Well if it's only streaming music, I would just use the on board sound card with some analog cables.
    Really any audio interface will work well for you, choose your favorite colour.
    Just beware that not all audio interfaces work well with all firewire cards.
    If your laptop doesn't have a Texas Instruments firewire chip, I would go with a USB interface

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    HIi,

    So you tell me that the sound from hi req files from the net is low rez sound? I know that Spotify is mp3 quality, but its possible to stream sacd quality out there. And my plan was to research it, since I work on the promotor side of the music business.

    I have checked out the laptop sound card, and the sound quality is as bad as a gettoblaster.

    Cheers, ToffenG


    Originally Posted by magno
    Well if it's only streaming music, I would just use the on board sound card with some analog cables.
    Really any audio interface will work well for you, choose your favorite colour.
    Just beware that not all audio interfaces work well with all firewire cards.
    If your laptop doesn't have a Texas Instruments firewire chip, I would go with a USB interface

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    I'm not sure what kind of budget you have? Perhaps it might be more ideal to get a new laptop that has a built in digital audio out.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Hi!

    I have a HP/Compaq 8510w with a standard FireWire 1394a output. Is this a low rez output? I am aware of that there are a lot of opinions about USB vs FireWire and soundquality. I have been reccommended to use the FireWire output.

    I am a talent buyer for festivals, and since internet becomes more and more the tool of checking out acts, I would like to have it as good as possible within its limits. I prefer vinyl and cd's listening to music, but I have to work with what I get (!).

    Cheeers and thanks, ToffenG





    Originally Posted by magno
    I'm not sure what kind of budget you have? Perhaps it might be more ideal to get a new laptop that has a built in digital audio out.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    It's not that firewire is lower rez, or anything, just be aware that certain firewire chips have compatability problems with firewire audio interfaces.
    The reason I recomend the Benchmark as opposed to the audio interfaces you mentioned is that it doesn't have things you wont need like microphone preamps etc...
    I'm sure there are other cheaper and maybe more suitable products out there in audiophile land.

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    No such thing !!
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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Hi!

    Thanks! There is a BelCanto USB-RCA interface that cost twice as Focusrite Saffire Pro 24..... And I am not sure the sound is that good. Stereophile and The Absolute Sound does not think so. They strongly reccommend the FireWire route. There are few USB DAC's on the market, but no Firewire DAC's. Therefore people reccommends to approach the studio world...

    Cheeers, ToffenG



    Originally Posted by garww
    No such thing !!

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    Apogee Duet
    Originally Posted by brandondrury
    I don't make music to impress engineers.
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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    If you are looking for a no compromise firewire interface look at the Prism Sound Orpheus. Doesn't get much better.
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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Those "people" should also warn you to expect to get some abuse when throwing around the "A" word in studio land
    Use Brandons Interface wizard to find an interface with digital outputs.
    Any of them will do, USB or Firewire.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    HI!

    He he. I understand that now. Thats the reason I wrote the a word in ""

    Cheeers and thanks, ToffenG


    Originally Posted by magno
    Those "people" should also warn you to expect to get some abuse when throwing around the "A" word in studio land
    Use Brandons Interface wizard to find an interface with digital outputs.
    Any of them will do, USB or Firewire.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Originally Posted by Audio~Geek
    Apogee Duet
    I don't think the Duet has digital outs.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    An audiophile listening to MP3's streaming on the internet?

    Right..

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    What I mean is that Krell, Conrad Johnson (and all) don't make these components. Maybe Telarc does record firewire : ) I don't know. However, I'm just taking issue with "audiophile".
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    Originally Posted by willieturnip
    An audiophile listening to MP3's streaming on the internet?

    Right..
    I agree, but we understand he just wants the best interface he can get . I did enjoy mango's reference about the "A" word, though : ) Ha !!

    I'm imagining modern mothers commanding; " Don't you ever use that word in my house" !! " Now, go upstairs and reload your iPod".
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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Audiophiles are always looking for that ****ed up sound.

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    Hi!

    Pls let us forget the "audiophile" thing. I have been promoting live music for 30 years now, and unfortunately most of the music I get from agents and artists are in music file format. If its been up to me, I would have preferred cd / sacd or vinyl. If the sound is good, its easier to get the message forward. And live music is best in my opinion.

    Cheeers, ToffenG





    Originally Posted by garww
    What I mean is that Krell, Conrad Johnson (and all) don't make these components. Maybe Telarc does record firewire : ) I don't know. However, I'm just taking issue with "audiophile".

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Look at any audiophile ad and it's **** this and **** that. They're getting ****ed up the bunghole.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    Oh BTW Toffen, Welcome to RR.
    If you stick around long enough you'll understand my humour.

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    Hi!

    He he. Thats just fine

    Cheeers, ToffenG



    Originally Posted by magno
    Oh BTW Toffen, Welcome to RR.
    If you stick around long enough you'll understand my humour.

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    Default Re: Best FireWire interface for "audiophile" use

    I believe that Apogee products are only supported for macs.

    Here's a link to a usb to spdif converter.
    USB to Spdif Toslink and I2S Converter for DAC - eBay (item 300335385711 end time Sep-01-09 22:39:56 PDT)

    You will be running 2 channels of 16/24 bit at 44.1k, so I wouldn't worry too much about whether you use firewire or usb.

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    I have an HP Laptop at school and I can tell you the built in FW card does not work with the schools Presonus Firestudio 26io. I have to use a Cool Gear (ti chipset) Firewire bus card. As far as sound quality goes, I don't think there will be any difference between Firewire and USB.
    If it sounds good, it IS good!

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