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i have no idea why people dont reply to threads especially when there filled with talent like yours! your beats are official the snare hits nice what sound sets are u using? did you slow up the tempo of tpains vocals? sounds real good i will have to link up with you! your producing skills are on point!
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What? I can't hear anything over the kick. Is this substantially different from the original? How many people would know? Honestly, that kick is sucking up all the headroom and making everything else quiet and weak.
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it must sound different in my headphones then your monitors? cuz it sounds good to me.
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Have a look on a spectroscope. You'll see that low just a-billowing. This is why, especially when mastering, you want to make use of as many measuring devices as you can to keep everything pointed in the right direction.

Looking at the waveform, it's also just as wrong as you'd like. Look how properly made music looks on the screen and on the scope and work toward that. That's the way Bach, Tchaikovsky and Brahms and those guys did it: closely studying established works.
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What? I can't hear anything over the kick. Is this substantially different from the original? How many people would know? Honestly, that kick is sucking up all the headroom and making everything else quiet and weak.
LOL.. If u gotta ask if it's "substantially different" from the original u obviously don't know the song and cannot appreciate the "substantially different" version I came up with... That being said... Bach, mozart, beethoven, chopin, and whatever other classical composer u wana refer to have never made music with the relevance of "boomy" bass the way hip-hop, reggae, house, and any other genre played in clubs nowadays... But with all due respect, with the name "garageband" ur taste and judgemental ear of music I am willing to bet isn't that xperienced in hip-hop...etc! I do appreciate the critique tho and want more!
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i have no idea why people dont reply to threads especially when there filled with talent like yours! your beats are official the snare hits nice what sound sets are u using? did you slow up the tempo of tpains vocals? sounds real good i will have to link up with you! your producing skills are on point!
Didn't slow nothing up! Just laced up the accapella with my beat! I'm using FL Studio... Don't even have a midi controller yet! lol.. Once I get some decent equipment... It's on 4 real! PC and PC speakers is all I got right now! Trust me.. I am self taught.. Never been in a studio... And it is what it is... Let me remix one of your tracks! Hurry up and get at me! BTW thanx for the positive vibes dawgy... Link up!!
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LOL.. If u gotta ask if it's "substantially different" from the original u obviously don't know the song and cannot appreciate the "substantially different" version I came up with... That being said... Bach, mozart, beethoven, chopin, and whatever other classical composer u wana refer to have never made music with the relevance of "boomy" bass the way hip-hop, reggae, house, and any other genre played in clubs nowadays... But with all due respect, with the name "garageband" ur taste and judgemental ear of music I am willing to bet isn't that xperienced in hip-hop...etc! I do appreciate the critique tho and want more!
Here's more. By quibbling and looking for a way to duck the criticism, you are missing the point and sounding more than a little green. All music was new once. Written, performed and listened to. Assuming that anyone who explains why your music isn't working is ignorant of the style really won't get you very far.

I am judgmental about music and would assume other musicians are the same. I don't make or listen to or like just any old crap and wouldn't want other musicians doing any different. I look for the best music of any genre and check that out, enjoy it and learn what I can as a musician - sometimes independent of whether I like it. The reason I asked if it was substantially different, because it doesn't sound special, creative or interesting. I'd be willing to bet no DJ in a club wants that formless 808-ish kick belting out at 0dBfs through his system. Why? That's how stuff gets broken. As I pointed out, the original (including the vocal) is totally subsumed by that kick. Remixes need to stand on their own as finished pieces with interesting elements arranged creatively and with their own flow. As a listener, I shouldn't need to know the original. If I know the tune, great, it's like an enjoyable inside joke. It should sound wicked on its own. Yours doesn't; it sounds broken and amateurish.

"u wana" learn to use some grammar and spelling so you can be understood more clearly? Music is about communication and emotional effect. You can probably see what one has to do with the other.
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Here's more. By quibbling and looking for a way to duck the criticism, you are missing the point and sounding more than a little green. All music was new once. Written, performed and listened to. Assuming that anyone who explains why your music isn't working is ignorant of the style really won't get you very far.

I am judgmental about music and would assume other musicians are the same. I don't make or listen to or like just any old crap and wouldn't want other musicians doing any different. I look for the best music of any genre and check that out, enjoy it and learn what I can as a musician - sometimes independent of whether I like it. The reason I asked if it was substantially different, because it doesn't sound special, creative or interesting. I'd be willing to bet no DJ in a club wants that formless 808-ish kick belting out at 0dBfs through his system. Why? That's how stuff gets broken. As I pointed out, the original (including the vocal) is totally subsumed by that kick. Remixes need to stand on their own as finished pieces with interesting elements arranged creatively and with their own flow. As a listener, I shouldn't need to know the original. If I know the tune, great, it's like an enjoyable inside joke. It should sound wicked on its own. Yours doesn't; it sounds broken and amateurish.

"u wana" learn to use some grammar and spelling so you can be understood more clearly? Music is about communication and emotional effect. You can probably see what one has to do with the other.
Lmao.. "U" really sound educated in this stuff! "u" probably went to school for Audio engineering didn't you!

This track HAS gotten spins at parties AND clubs!! Nothing broke!! I'm sure "u" know your shit to the extent of your styles of music and probably helped out a lot of people but...!

If "u" don't know a damn thing about basket-ball, "u" would never know to how appreciate a pick and roll!!

In case that went over that well educated head of yours... Eddie Van Halen as awsome as he is just would NOT understand or be able to judge what a good hip-hop song is... But of course "u" can!! Stick to your treble charged genre because "u" have no idea of what sounds good!! People nodding their heads and shaking their asses to something I created, in my book is good sign people like the music coming out of the speakers that didn't blow because of the bass! Go figure eh..!

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Eddie Van Halen as awsome as he is just would NOT understand or be able to judge what a good hip-hop song is..
This simply isn't true. Experienced musicians can tell good music from bad in any genre. Really. I'm not sure who "u" is. I know enough about basketball to know the word isn't hyphenated. The rest of your assumptions are off the mark and I won't address them individually.

Remember, this section of the Forum is called "Bash This Recording" not "Blow Smoke Up the Poster's Ass".

I knew you really didn't want "more" or to "thanx" me. You really just wanted people to tell you what a dope you are... wait... how dope you are. Even makers of the worst possible music imaginable have fans. Check out this thread:
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