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Old 11-05-2009, 06:17 AM
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This is my first post here and ...well It might as well me a song. This is a song I wrote and recorded for my band. For hardware it was just my guitar, instrument cable and a Mbox Mini. For software/RTAS/VST, Pro Tools 8, Guitar rig, Recabinet, Orchestral, and Superior Drummer 2.0. This mix didn't come out as ..good as I wanted. Any tips will be very much appreciated. I only get to mix with headphones because I don't have monitors yet (I started doing this a couple weeks ago) Anyways, tell me what you think about the songwriting and general recording. Thanks


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Old 11-05-2009, 04:45 PM
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I like it. good metal tune you got there. drums sound nice. only the snare sounds raw. about the guitars, i think they lack some wideness. how far did you pan this?? nice orchestral. using edirol orchestral? nice riffs man. they are killer for me. maybe bring up the bass a bit. this would def sound better with that. im hearing a nice bass tone so let everybody notice it.

oh and i edited this message to say this..

you got great songwriting and riffing ideas bro! keep it up!!!
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Old 11-05-2009, 05:07 PM
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yea the mix is good .those were my first thoughts on the guitar, too. there thin the tone is good though.you can thicken them up.with some panning tricks.i personally have found running my main riffs hard left and right with a little layering does the trick pretty good .the overall composition is bad ass.great writing.drums dont sound to bad.it sounds like you got everything there just some tweeking with some eq here and there on the drums (snare).thats all i can think of right now.thats the greatest thing about this place is someones gonna give you the right tricks or direction.i always end up trying everything everybody sais.oh the snare and kick usually run at around 100 to 250 k well the snare can get into your 800 and everwhere else too but , i always run them straight down the middle.good stuff man lets hear some vocals soon
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Recommend posting mp3 directly to this board. I don't have access to Soundclick behind my firewall.

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Thanks for all the quick responses! The guitars are Guitar 3 3 with the ultra sonic and TS going through Recabinet 57's and d6's. I think on this song theres 6 guitars one panned 100 % left, then 60% then 30 percent. Then the exact same on the other side. Anyone have some suggestions to really -fatten- up the sound? any tips on mixing bass would be awesome too.

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Thanks for all the compliments by the way! I have a couple more songs I want to upload evauntually but this one is the one with the most work on it so far.
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Pan em all 100% left and right. don't give space in the middle for rhythms. thats for the lead guitars, vocals and bass. try it and try listnin to both of your mixdowns. hey maybe bash my post as well. its just above this thread. i really need fresh ears and a great deal of help on my mix before releasing it. Thanks bud and i hope this helps.
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Thanks man. I would but I'm running windows 7 64 bit beta. So on top of mixing out of crappy headphones, Protools sometimes crashes which causes my audio codecs to uninstall...Its weird. When I leave my computer off for like 4 hours they're back to normal (maybe my cache needs to refresh or something) but when ever audio works on my computer protools fucks up...when ever they aren't working protools is fine. Kinda gay.
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A minute into the song and I was headbanging already! Nice riff-age maestro! Try first, just bringing the levels up on your bass track first and see what that does. A lot of times, that's all it takes to help thicken your guitars. It's cheating I know, but hey if it works... Nice song!
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Thanks man! I've changed it a little bit I think the guitars sound thicker now I tried panning 100,95,90,and 85 and I think it sounds a lot better.. Im just trying to figure out how to fix my audio codecs (any one got suggestions on that)?
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