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Old 01-29-2009, 08:56 PM
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Default My New Studio

I am excited to say that I am finishing the interior of a new 16'x20 recording studio.

I have been saving for over 3 years money and or materials. I will post a pic a soon as possible.

I would like some advice on acoustical treatments (cheap....)

oh BTW

I am using Protools M powered version 7.4

Sonar 7 and Sometimes Cubase sx3 (love it)

Right now I use an Firewire 1814 from m-audio
Also I have an SM Pro Audio 8 channel mic pre

and some Behginger outboard gear.

I know low budget equipment (LOL) but I will let you guys bash my mixes soon as I get it up and runnin...


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Old 01-30-2009, 09:33 PM
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I would like some advice on acoustical treatments (cheap....)
My standard reply follows.

Room treatment is a deep subject, and a complete answer requires far more than will fit into a single reply here. So here's the short version which will get you 99 percent of the way there. All rooms need:

* Broadband (not tuned) bass traps straddling as many corners as you can manage, including the wall-ceiling corners. More bass traps on the rear wall behind helps even further. You simply cannot have too much bass trapping. Real bass trapping, that is - thin foam and thin fiberglass don't work to a low enough frequency.

* Mid/high frequency absorption at the first reflection points on the side walls and ceiling.

* Some additional amount of mid/high absorption and/or diffusion on any large areas of bare parallel surfaces, such as opposing walls or the ceiling if the floor is reflective. Diffusion on the rear wall behind you is also useful in larger rooms.

For the complete story see my Acoustics FAQ.

There's a lot of additional non-sales technical information on my company's web site - articles, videos, test tones and other downloads, and much more.

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Us awesome thanks for the info.



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My standard reply follows.

Room treatment is a deep subject, and a complete answer requires far more than will fit into a single reply here. So here's the short version which will get you 99 percent of the way there. All rooms need:

* Broadband (not tuned) bass traps straddling as many corners as you can manage, including the wall-ceiling corners. More bass traps on the rear wall behind helps even further. You simply cannot have too much bass trapping. Real bass trapping, that is - thin foam and thin fiberglass don't work to a low enough frequency.

* Mid/high frequency absorption at the first reflection points on the side walls and ceiling.

* Some additional amount of mid/high absorption and/or diffusion on any large areas of bare parallel surfaces, such as opposing walls or the ceiling if the floor is reflective. Diffusion on the rear wall behind you is also useful in larger rooms.

For the complete story see my Acoustics FAQ.

There's a lot of additional non-sales technical information on my company's web site - articles, videos, test tones and other downloads, and much more.

--Ethan
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:49 PM
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Now my question is this Bass traps. I 45ed all walls so there is no 90 degree corners. Also the ceiling is vaulted.
I only have two parrallell walls (front and back / sides ) so it appears I will need on at every wall intersection.

Is this right?

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Room treatment is a deep subject, and a complete answer requires far more than will fit into a single reply here. So here's the short version which will get you 99 percent of the way there. All rooms need:

* Broadband (not tuned) bass traps straddling as many corners as you can manage, including the wall-ceiling corners. More bass traps on the rear wall behind helps even further. You simply cannot have too much bass trapping. Real bass trapping, that is - thin foam and thin fiberglass don't work to a low enough frequency.

* Mid/high frequency absorption at the first reflection points on the side walls and ceiling.

* Some additional amount of mid/high absorption and/or diffusion on any large areas of bare parallel surfaces, such as opposing walls or the ceiling if the floor is reflective. Diffusion on the rear wall behind you is also useful in larger rooms.

For the complete story see my Acoustics FAQ.

There's a lot of additional non-sales technical information on my company's web site - articles, videos, test tones and other downloads, and much more.

--Ethan
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I just wanted to recommend that everyone read Ethans articles! They have been an invaluable source of help for me and will be for all of you.
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I 45ed all walls so there is no 90 degree corners.
Sorry, but that was a huge mistake. All you accomplished is removing the single best place to put bass traps. Can you undo it?

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Oh no. Jeesh, my own head designed.

you know I gripe all day because the BuildingS I build dont seem like the Architects truly consult with all of the engineers involved on the design teams. And here I go, without excuse, go and do likewise.

Any way no the building is in the finishing stages. The 45s are small so can I simply double up the base traps?

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This is my take on it, still not ideal but more predictable. Having the mix desk close to one wall and 10 feet away from the other is really bad.

Some things don't seem to scale, that desk looks huge.

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The 45s are small so can I simply double up the base traps?
Yes, that can only help.

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Old 02-03-2009, 01:11 AM
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Thanks so much. i printed your article and the blueprints for the bass traps etc.

I also have put plans to acoustically treat the walls with the alternating traps that you have designed. I (being ok with tools) can build these at use them as your recomendation in your article.

Then take and build the low end traps for the 45ed corners.

Also i will build a mobile trap wall adjacent to the audio desk (in my example) 4x8 to create a more conducive configuration to mixing.

am I on the right track here?




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