Low Frequency absorbers or resonators?

[The Producing Drummer]

I'm going to start treating my garage soon as a recording room for my drums and, after running the dimensions of the room through calculators, it looks like I'm having my biggest problems from roughly 15-85 hz(its a 3 car garage =D). Anyways, I'm wondering what kind of treatment I should use for my bass problem.

[paul999]

Have you actually heard the bass problem are is it theoretical? In a garage you could have way bigger problems then low frequency issues. How is the noise? Temp. control? Etc.

[garageband]

Consarned internet and its fanciful concerns and worriments. As Paul indicated, stick some drums and microphones in there, then see what sort of problems actually present themselves.

[The Producing Drummer]

I have =D. I definitley have a much bigger problem with mid-to-high frequency comb filtering and whatnot and I'm gonna be dealing with that first, but I already know what I'm doing for that. There definitely is a bass problem in those frequencies that you feel more than hear, and both of my guitarists will vouch for that one. So I stuck my room dimensions in a room mode calculator and it just confirmed my thoughts. So now I'm wondering what you guys(with much more experience than I) think I should use for that little problem. Im guessing that the modes that are bugging me are probably going side to side because the ones going front to back(I would think) would be mostly let out through the flimsy ass sheet metal doors rather than reflected....and yes I am working on a plan to fix those NASTY reflections coming from those doors.

[The Producing Drummer]

oh and the temp control isn't too bad considering all of the walls besides the garage doors are insulated and dry walled just like the rest of the house. So if it gets too cold I just plug up the little vents, open the door to the house and flip the heater on for a little while.

[The Producing Drummer]

as more background, we have been using the garage as a practice space for almost a year and I have recorded the drums a few times in there. if you guys like, I can do another recording with the new mic setup I'm using so you can hear for yourselves and give me your opinion based on that. I would offer up the first recording I did with this setup but I'd be embarrassed as a drummer uploading that considering how random and rushed it was.

[garageband]

There definitely is a bass problem in those frequencies that you feel more than hear,

For crazy low stuff like that, my vote would be for instantiating a linear phase EQ plug and taking out all the floppy stuff that way. It's possible that that's the building itself talkin' and you won't be fixing that quickly or inexpensively.

But please post. Don't be embarrassed. I suck at lots of instruments yet post up clips all the time.

[The Producing Drummer]

Alright well, despite the fact that I don't like the clip, here it is. I took off all reverb but there is EQ on the bass drum and snare drum channels, a high pass on the Overheads, and parallel compression for all. (done independently from each other)


Overheads are in recorderman positioning and are MXL 990's. e906 on snare batter and a 57 on snare side. Audix f12 on bass drum and heavily eq'd(probably over-eq'd i dunno let me know on that one i don't have monitors yet)
oh and I have a gate on the bass drum and snare

[paul999]

I am not hearing a terrible room in this clip. I am hearing an odd snare delay before the actual hit sometimes I am surprised how dead the room sounds but I am guessing it is not just a open garage with nothing in it. I would focus on recording techniques and better O.H. mics.

Cheers

[The Producing Drummer]

Originally Posted by paul999

I am not hearing a terrible room in this clip. I am hearing an odd snare delay before the actual hit sometimes I am surprised how dead the room sounds but I am guessing it is not just a open garage with nothing in it. I would focus on recording techniques and better O.H. mics.

Cheers

yeah i hear that too i dunno why that would happen...the garage has a LOT of shit in it right now. what i was gonna do was empty most of it, treat it, and put up wood boards across the face of whatever piles of mess are left in there(making an irregularly shaped room) to see if I could get the sound I want. But I think you may be right with getting better overheads and focusing on that later. Better cymbals and newer heads wouldnt hurt either