Would this budget setup work?

[blackstone]

*I am new, be gentle*

I am just wondering if this setup, designed for recording distorted guitars (DI) would work...

First of all- Reaper is my DAW of choice
I'd like to use this
PCI sound card:
M-Audio Delta 44 PCI Card W/ Breakout Box | DV247

With this leading into one of the inputs on the breakout box:

ART TUBE MP - U.K. International Cyberstore

Would this lead to low budget, low latency, high quality guitar recordings? Coupled with an amp vst such as Nick Crow's 7170.

Or am I just missing something quite vital?
Feel free to tell me if my whole outlook on life is pathetic and meaningless due to my lack of knowledge

Thanks guys, Will.

[bozmillar]

That would pretty much do it. All you are missing is a guitar and cables. Oh, and speakers.

[newkid]

Originally Posted by blackstone

*I am new, be gentle*

I am just wondering if this setup, designed for recording distorted guitars (DI) would work...

First of all- Reaper is my DAW of choice
I'd like to use this
PCI sound card:
M-Audio Delta 44 PCI Card W/ Breakout Box | DV247

With this leading into one of the inputs on the breakout box:

ART TUBE MP - U.K. International Cyberstore

Would this lead to low budget, low latency, high quality guitar recordings? Coupled with an amp vst such as Nick Crow's 7170.

Or am I just missing something quite vital?
Feel free to tell me if my whole outlook on life is pathetic and meaningless due to my lack of knowledge

Thanks guys, Will.

should work

why do you like reaper - free ?
why a pci card instead of external usb ??

low budget yes
low latency - dont know the specs - check with the maker
high quality - for distorted guitar sound you mention - sure
tubes burn out, filaments go poof in the night, why not get a reliable solid state unit?
cant address your outlook on life only choice of audio gear

vital? will this last forever or could you outgrow it
why not start with what you need so you dont repeat this again

[bozmillar]

Yes, your latency should be low enough. I use a delta-66 and I have it running at about 7ms very comfortably. This is plenty low for guitar. As much as I want to say not to listen to new kid, there is usually actually some good advice buried in his posts. you can get a setup with usb and more preamps for about the same price, but honestly, I really like the delta44.

New Kid, I think I'm going to have to start reading your posts in a different voice. For some reason, I just picture some bitter old man, and even if you say the nicest thing in the world, I still see it as coming from a pissy old man. Maybe everything will sound better if I read your posts in big bird's voice.

[garww]

I waited for awhile for PCIx, but not much was coming out. So, I went USB and a laptop. It's fine. I would have bot a a PCIx card, but they are only recently "affordable". Had my old box not started to flake-out, I might have that Delta 44.

[blackstone]

Thanks a lot for the help guys, its very... helpful

Originally Posted by newkid

should work

why do you like reaper - free ?
why a pci card instead of external usb ??

low budget yes
low latency - dont know the specs - check with the maker
high quality - for distorted guitar sound you mention - sure
tubes burn out, filaments go poof in the night, why not get a reliable solid state unit?
cant address your outlook on life only choice of audio gear

vital? will this last forever or could you outgrow it
why not start with what you need so you dont repeat this again

I like reaper because it is free
I have been recommended a pci card to due to faster latency... is this correct? Also, due to the relatively good price for what I require really.
I want to tubes to bring a little more ****th the my guitar signal, so when its distorted its not dynamically compressed in ever way, as well as possibly lacking some life- although I am sure that some solid state units are cable of livening up a guitar signal too.
Also, I don't see why (if I feel the need) the valve won't help to **** up some vocal recordings whilst I'm at it.
Thanks, (and if you have better suggestions, feel free to hit me with them)

The word ''w a r m'' has been edited out..?

[garageband]

Proper routing has a more substantial effect on latency than anything, followed by processor load. Connection protocol is fairly low on the list of factors.

W@rm has been deemed by the admins of the site to be (at best) meaningless or (at worst) misleading verbiage. For instance, in this case, you think you are getting "analog w@rmth", yet really getting fuzzy distortion noise that you now can't get out of your recordings.

[garww]

Ya, often what goes on in the box is what really matters. You don't want a sloppy race track.

Tubes are neat things. In general use over the years, they do not always last very long. But that depends on their use. Pre amp tubes can last quite long - i have many that are at least 40 years old. I just got my first modern "TUBE" preamp(multi-effects pedal), and I kind of laugh at it.

I think it does help, particularly if you can dial in the BIAS response you desire. In my case, before I got into digital recording, I used a old ('50 era)stereo preamp to buffer my CD player outputs ( but that is 8 tubes). So, you might also use the preamp for post processing, also. Don't expect any big sonic difference.

[newkid]

Originally Posted by blackstone

Thanks a lot for the help guys, its very... helpful



I like reaper because it is free
I have been recommended a pci card to due to faster latency... is this correct? Also, due to the relatively good price for what I require really.
I want to tubes to bring a little more ****th the my guitar signal, so when its distorted its not dynamically compressed in ever way, as well as possibly lacking some life- although I am sure that some solid state units are cable of livening up a guitar signal too.
Also, I don't see why (if I feel the need) the valve won't help to **** up some vocal recordings whilst I'm at it.
Thanks, (and if you have better suggestions, feel free to hit me with them)

The word ''w a r m'' has been edited out..?

I like free too
audacity is free
doesnt reaper want you to pay - like shareware not freeware

many things affect latency
i would not put my trust in pci just because it is pci

cant you get about the same price with an outboard usb unit

tubes schmubes - if you can hear the diff then go for it
i prefer transistors and solid state opamps

actually when tubes distort they have to compress some
otherwise they would not distort

in a properly designed circuit you should not be able to tell the difference no matter what active component provides the gain
except that the box with the tube gets a lot hotter

i suggest you look at all options then decide what you like

[garww]

Transistors are very nice. Chips and chipsets ? Not so often !!