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Old 11-06-2009, 04:33 PM
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Hello everyone. I am trying to find a new tuner for the guitar. I have read somewhere to help with tuning problems up and down the neck to tune specific strings up a cent and other specific strings down a cent. The problem I have is finding a tuner that will show 1 cent increments to tune to. Does anyone know of specific tuners that will do this?

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A correctly and proffessionally set up guitar will adjust the truss rod and bridge so you do not have to adjust tuning like that. The right strings for the style of player helps too. Hard strumming punk players will want heavy gauge to prevent jumping tuning. While precise accurate playing can get away with lighter strings.

There are 100 cents between notes. Not sure where you read that advice from, but I smell bullshit. you can't hear a cent difference on a wild instrument like guitar. Synth, maybe.
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I understand that depending on the style you may not be able to hear the difference. For instance if you are playing metal with heavy distortion it would be harder to tell than say fingerstyle acoustic. My guitar has been professionally setup recently and have always had slight problems when playing up the neck. I use light strings (.10). Do you have any tuning suggestions to help compensate? Thanks.
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Old 11-06-2009, 05:28 PM
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it depends on how hard you press the strings and how much you bend them. Also how hard you pluck the strings. To get you tuning within a few cents is a bit ridiculous when the pitch changes a lot more than that depending on how hard you pick it.

How far are the strings from your frets? How good is the intonation? How tightly do you grip the neck? How much do you lean on your guitar when you play? All of these affect the tuning more than a few cents.
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My guitar is perfectly setup, perfect intonation. The strings are very close to the frets. I do tend to press fairly hard. I have made an effort to play lighter which helps a little but still have problems.
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I have a guitar with a tremelo bar or whatever, I don't use it but all the strings effect each other because their all on the same bar with springs attached to it.

I made it solid but it didn't sounds the same, didn't ring.

Anyway I have to make a few passes to get it really in tune if I'm going to track with it.

First off starting at the largest string I tune each string about 5 cents under, then come back and bring it closer plus/minus 2 cents is close enough. Course you can't tune down, you can only tune up so if it's sharp you lower it and yank on it and come back up.

My eclipse shows cents, so does guitar rig 4.
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My guitar is perfectly setup, perfect intonation.
There's no such thing as a perfectly set up guitar. It can sound good, but part of a guitar's sound is the fact that it isn't perfect.

One thing you can try is to record yourself playing a couple notes into any pitch correction software that tracks the pitch and you can see how much it changes from pluck to sustain.

I'm not saying that you should't have your guitar in tune, all I'm saying is that the "certain strings should up up a few cents and others down" idea doesn't really apply to a guitar, and even if you want to be perfectly accurate, it will depend on your guitar, not some formula made up by some guy who wanted to sound intelligent.
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First off starting at the largest string I tune each string about 5 cents under, then come back and bring it closer plus/minus 2 cents is close enough. Course you can't tune down, you can only tune up so if it's sharp you lower it and yank on it and come back up.

My eclipse shows cents, so does guitar rig 4.
What is eclipse?
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Ive read in places in the past that it is the players responsibility to jiggle the strings at times to make up for intonation and tuning shortcomings.

I know that whether i intonate or not there are places on my guitar that just never seem to be in tune. If im playing a song i will tune the guitar to best suit that song. I might have to slightly down tune the G string if i know ill be playing the E barre chord on the 9th. Because its always a little sharp there. If i gotta use the open G during that same song youll hear it.

Lighter picks prevent over oscillation or strings going sharp when picked and coming back into range. I think String 7 called it jump tuning.

Tune to the needs of the song and decide whether you should tnue to the attack or sustained note.
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The eclipse is a hardware FX unit made by Eventide.
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