creating a better compressed lead vocals

[irawan gani]

i read from Sound on Sound about this trick:

The effect in question is a mono-to-stereo pitch-shifter-delay send effect, where both the left and the right channels are delayed by between 5ms and 20ms, but with one channel a few milliseconds ahead of the other. The earlier of the two delay taps is then pitch-shifted downwards by 2-10 cents (cents being hundredths of a semitone), while the later tap is pitch-shifted an equal amount upwards. The net result of this process is that the delay taps separate themselves from each other as far as the listener is concerned, and sit at the extreme edges of the stereo field.
Adding this widener effect to a dry vocal gives the impression that it is spreading across the stereo image, the width depending on the level of the pitch-shifted delays. Because the delay times used are so small, you don’t really perceive any kind of ‘echo’, but if the level of the delays increases there is the danger that they begin to phase-cancel noticeably with the dry signal and thereby change the overall vocal tone. If you find that this starts happening, try adjusting the exact delay times a little, as this will shift the phase-cancellation frequencies and allow you to find a setting that better suits the sound you’re after. That said, ever since the band Chicago went out of fashion, few people without permed mullets use more than a touch of this effect, so tonal changes are unlikely to cause much of a problem for you if you’re after that kind of low-key David Sylvian sound.

anyone know how this can be achieved in Logic?

[boo]

Sure. What I would do is copy the mono vocal track so that you have two tracks that you can pan accordingly. Logic has the plugs you need. Just find the delay and the pitch shifter from the menus, and you're good to go.

[mindundermatter]

No, don't copy the track. On your vocal buss, add a stereo delay and then set it up how the article said.

[irawan gani]

Originally Posted by mindundermatter

No, don't copy the track. On your vocal buss, add a stereo delay and then set it up how the article said.

problem is when i change the delay to 5ms one bus, the other bus will delay at that rate too. hence there is no staggered delay effect as described...

[mindundermatter]

Get a better delay plug-in then. I do this trick in Pro Tools all the time with the standard stereo delay plug-in that comes with it. It has settings for the left and settings for the right so that if you change one side, it doesn't affect the other.

[irawan gani]

now why didnt i think of that

stupido...

thanks mate.... will try now.

[garageband]

ever since the band Chicago went out of fashion

How rude! Go on ahead and substitute the name of any other classic band that's been together for forty years. Brits!

[irawan gani]

Originally Posted by garageband

How rude! Go on ahead and substitute the name of any other classic band that's been together for forty years. Brits!

hahaha...

it wasnt me... just quoting someone...