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Old 10-04-2009, 12:14 AM
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Yeah Dano nice pics, i absolutely LOVE the sound of that API 2500. And that SSL channel gets ALOT of use round these parts.

Whats the reason for using th Q10 as opposed to the lin phase eq, or the lin low band eq? Im assuming the fact that the Q control's ability to really zero in, but then here we go again with our surgery. If thats even the case.

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Yeah that API is something else ain't it? Now if you compare that to the comp in Ozone....it's a pretty decent noticable difference in my opinion. I didn't mean to sound like I was having a go at Ozone....I just have always had issues with getting good results with all in one processors.

The Q-10's allow me to really get tight on issue esq parts of a tune. I may use 5 of them at times...or other times, that Precision Multi-comp gets used for problem areas like lets say...a bassist that uses a 5 string. When that low B hits at 61.735hz, it sometimes lashes out at us to where it will rumble when that note is hit. We either use a multi comp on it and control 61hz or we can automate a Q-10 with a tight Q at 61 and dial it out each time that part comes in. The Q-10 to me has more control than the "lin" stuff. I've never had good results with anything "lin".

The issue I've had with those eq's is you have to really jump on them to notice differences in certain situations. The Q-10 works instantly for me with subltle moves showing me differences in sound...if that makes sense? That's the cool thing about this field Will...it's so subjective, trial and error makes it so entertaining. If something works for a person, no one can deny good results. If we're happy at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if we used high end stuff, cheaper gear or an old Digitech 31 band eq to master up a tune. Great talkin to ya man.
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I didn't mean to sound like I was having a go at Ozone.
My whole thing here is that i was told by a pretty reputable cat that ozone would be all a person would ever need for mastering.

Now at $149 one should know better, but being that i dont have the right monitors and a room that sounds like sheeyite its a little hard to tell. This is something (improved acoustics)that is high on my priority list but i havent gotten there yet.

Just a bit shockin to hear that the program is useless i guess.

Good talkin to you as well Dan its always nice to know how you ME's are doin it. I appreciate all the effort youve put into yr responses.
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My whole thing here is that i was told by a pretty reputable cat that ozone would be all a person would ever need for mastering.

Now at $149 one should know better, but being that i dont have the right monitors and a room that sounds like sheeyite its a little hard to tell. This is something (improved acoustics)that is high on my priority list but i havent gotten there yet.

Just a bit shockin to hear that the program is useless i guess.

Good talkin to you as well Dan its always nice to know how you ME's are doin it. I appreciate all the effort youve put into yr responses.
Thanks Will, that's very kind of you. I wouldn't say it's useless, but again, it depends on the extent a mastering guy is going to go through to really make a difference. For example, most guys will pretty much eq something until it sounds good and then compress and limit the hell out of it. To me, that's not what a mastering guy is supposed to do. It's as tedious process to where sometimes, you literally have to hi-lite a section and process just that section using the right tool. Yeah, surgery which we have both decided we don't like. LOL!!! But there are situations where you just don't have a choice unfortunately.

As for you room issues, if you've not heard of it ARC by IK Mulitmedia is absolutely outstanding man. I totally put my credibility and what little reputation I have on the line for it. As a matter of fact, IK allowed me to do a review on their site for ARC...which of course is a room correction plugin that runs on your master bus. If you go to ikmultimedia.com and look for ARC, they have a testimonials page. I'm on page 4. I sincerely tried to give it the most honest review I could and I wasn't paid to do it. The thing has literally changed my entire life in the mixing realm and it's something we should all at least try once. I've made crap monitors sound really good with it too....it's just amazing Will. Definitely check it out if you get a minute and if by chance you decide to purchase it, I will walk you through it completely on how to get the best results. That's a promise.
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Thank you Dan, acoustics have been a real pain for me and ill def be giving it a look.

I just noticed your only 9 posts old. Welcome to the forum and i hope you enjoy your stay.This place is great. I think Brandon has laced it with oxycontin coz im addicted bad.
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Thanks Will, very nice to meet you. I was looking for a place to say hello and introduce myself properly....but I didn't see anything so I elected to jump right in and hopefully make some friends and help out in the discussions.

I've been doing this a very long time...and love sharing as well as learning from others. Been a signed artist since 1999 and have a decent following in Europe and Japan for the most part. Got heavily into engineering, production and mastering along the way and have built a pretty decent business on the side while still working on my original projects. Great to be here and I'm looking forward to taking part here. Thanks again for your kindness and conversation.
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Kinda looked real quick Dano, one question thogh, how is ARC going to help my tracking situation. I assume that it cant other than what i hear through the monitors. DUU. Kinda dumb question right?
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Not dumb at all. Maybe I painted a bad picture with ARC. Let me tell you how it works. For the most part, it takes sound shots of symmetrical positions with your mic all through your room. You then run it on your master bus at all times so you can hear the right stuff and make the right calls.

Now, if your room is really bad, it won't help you on the initial recording part which is a downer. But see man, most people don't have issues with what they are tracking to where what they record sounds nothing like what goes to disc, know what I mean? The issues we have are mostly mix oriented...too much bass....too much high end, too much mid range congestion etc. This is where ARC will assist you in the mixing realm...however, it will not help your initial tracking if your room is in horrible shape and your monitors are really bad. Like I say, most of us get good sounds...but it's mixing them where we have issues. So it may not work for you.
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Dan i was 100% sure that there was an area to introduce yrself or say hi or whatever. Maybe i was mistaken. We do have a thread running called where you from which always intrests me.
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Yeah I wasn't able to find one either....I'll look for the one you've mentioned. Thanks so much Will!
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