Tascam Us-1641

[bobman]

has anyone used the 1641 with a mac? i just bought a new macbook and am worried about the transition from pc to mac.

[BudmanRocks]

Originally Posted by damien

I have been looking at this unit for a while now. I keep reading reviews with people having latency problems when recording overdubs. It;s a big turn off for me since I do a lot of overdubbing. Does anyone with experience have anything to say about that?

If you don't use the monitor output when over dubbing there will be a latency problem. You cannot listen with the line outs and over dubb. Monitor outputs have to be used.

[oskee]

Try the following:
1. Set your channel's volume in your DAW...you will still experience latency here.
2. Change that channel's output to "none" or "no output". You will still hear your instrument.
3. Modify playback-overdub and recording volume with latency knob infront of unit
4. Record
5. When finished recording remember to change the channel's output from "none" or "no output" back to default output to listen to what you recorded along with everything else.

This technique allows you to record with zero latency because the recording audio is going from 1641 directly to speakers as opposed to going into DAW, back to unit and finally out to speakers. Enjoy!

[BudmanRocks]

Originally Posted by oskee

Try the following:
1. Set your channel's volume in your DAW...you will still experience latency here.
2. Change that channel's output to "none" or "no output". You will still hear your instrument.
3. Modify playback-overdub and recording volume with latency knob infront of unit
4. Record
5. When finished recording remember to change the channel's output from "none" or "no output" back to default output to listen to what you recorded along with everything else.

This technique allows you to record with zero latency because the recording audio is going from 1641 directly to speakers as opposed to going into DAW, back to unit and finally out to speakers. Enjoy!

Not realy, if I would set my daw output to none then I couldn't hear my preveous tracks. All you need to do is use the MONITOR OUTPUTS. This takes care of latency.

[oskee]

If you set the output on the channel that you are recording into to "no output" it will work. The main output gets left alone, only the channel you are recording into gets it's output modified. I'm sure monitor outs may work also for some systems but the performance will vary in different systems. My solution is universal regardless of the system specs because the audible sound being recorded is not "daw-dependent" since it skips the DAW by going directly to the speakers. It's a similar concept to using an external mixer to eliminate the daw created latency.

[Stratomaniac]

Been using mine for about 6 months, from recording gigs in the field to various practice spaces. (See equipment list below)

I was able to eliminate overdub latency via the tascam software...one notch below default, I think. If I set it too far, I get dropouts.

Overall, this thing has "just worked".

I canned the cubase software because it needlessly complicated, (er...I'm too busy to spend the time learning the software) and went with Reaper because it seems very intuitive...(things work the way I expect them to).

I'm turning out ok mixes...need more experience, and better bands to record, but my rig is stable and sounds good.

Tascam US1641---two thumbs WAY up.

[BudmanRocks]

Originally Posted by oskee

If you set the output on the channel that you are recording into to "no output" it will work. The main output gets left alone, only the channel you are recording into gets it's output modified. I'm sure monitor outs may work also for some systems but the performance will vary in different systems. My solution is universal regardless of the system specs because the audible sound being recorded is not "daw-dependent" since it skips the DAW by going directly to the speakers. It's a similar concept to using an external mixer to eliminate the daw created latency.

-I'm talking about the monitor outputs on the Tascam US 1641. You have 6 outputs on it. I use line out for doing the mixing and production and the monitor outputs for my overdubbing. I take inputs 9 thru 14 and connect them to the 1st 6 direct outs on my mixer which gives me 14 xlr inputs and it works flawlessly. You can read my computer specs below, i just built this one and I couldn't be happier with it. This the best recording rig I have ever had that has more than 4 inputs. Nothing beat my M-Audio Delta 44. I would have went with the Delta 1010 if it wasn't so over priced. But TAscam has that beat with the US1641 with all it's features. So guys KEEP IT ROCKIN.......

PS - IF YOU ARE OVERDUBBING WITH THE TASCAM US1641 YOU HAVE TO USE THE MONITOR OUTPUTS TO LISTEN. If you change all the settings for latency so you can use lineouts your working your computer way to hard. The monitor outputs were designed just for overdubbing. I hope I didnot run this into the ground.........Thanks

[brewster1]

I've got a Tascam US-1641 running into an older generation Dell Latitude D630 and I'm recording on Mixcraft 4.0.
I've got 3 questions/issues:
1) I'm running the 2 monitor line outs into a stereo headphone amp so that the 3 people in my band can all wear headphones when we record. Is this the best way to do this?
2) When we have 9 tracks recording, we sometimes hear some latency, but if I open and close the mixer settings window in Mixcraft, even without changing any setting, the latency seems to go away long enough to get through a song.
3) When we tried overdubbing a track onto the 9 previously recorded tracks, we just couldn't get rid of the latency, even by changing the latency setting in the mixer settings window.

I've got the internet turned off in the PC, and the only thing using USB is the Tascam unit. Any thoughts?
Thanks!

[BudmanRocks]

Originally Posted by brewster1

I've got a Tascam US-1641 running into an older generation Dell Latitude D630 and I'm recording on Mixcraft 4.0.
I've got 3 questions/issues:
1) I'm running the 2 monitor line outs into a stereo headphone amp so that the 3 people in my band can all wear headphones when we record. Is this the best way to do this?
2) When we have 9 tracks recording, we sometimes hear some latency, but if I open and close the mixer settings window in Mixcraft, even without changing any setting, the latency seems to go away long enough to get through a song.
3) When we tried overdubbing a track onto the 9 previously recorded tracks, we just couldn't get rid of the latency, even by changing the latency setting in the mixer settings window.

I've got the internet turned off in the PC, and the only thing using USB is the Tascam unit. Any thoughts?
Thanks!

Number 1 for head phones use the headfone jack on the Tascam.

Number 2 try ajusting this with in the Tascam software, I droped mine down 1 level.

Number 3 same as 2 try ajusting this in the Tascam software and also with in in your daw. The Tascam software has a latency ajustment in there........


My old computer could not handle the Tascam running at full tilt. I had to biuld a duel core system and it works great. The TAscam really uses your resourses up. Might want to think about that. Let me know if this helped you out........

[brewster1]

Budman Rocks,
Thanks for the reply. On the headphone issue, is it safe to run the headphone output into a headphone amplifier? Will the power coming out of the headphone jack, since it's already amplified, overload the outboard headphone amp?
And what is the difference between what's coming out of the headphone jack and what's coming out of the monitoring line outs on the back panel?
Thanks!