tutorial missing details

[whomper]

okay
saw the tutorial
the EXTERNAL stuff is obvious
the internal software related things was obfuscated
with a genuine internal sound card and a break out box
one might be able to correctly infer the total signal flow
BUT
can anyone explain the internal details
with a software only system
and a "sound card" that is just an a/d/a outboard converter
(perhaps with preamps or other stuff that is not pertinent here)
no break out box
no extra cards in the pc
and the pc sound stuff disabled

this should include all software including
drivers
"DAW' - presumably sequencer editor and more
( assume cubase or sonar plus any other programs needed)
soft synth
whatever might be used to record edit burn a cd and play it back
and show how these pieces all connect to each other

would like to see this for pure recording first
(eg acoustic in from singer to mike to i/f to pc (details needed here) to d/a to speakers)

then optionally for all midi approach

it is the details in the pc that are the problems !!
all the books gloss over that part.

[TonyB]

True, but it sounds like you found your niche to get an "internal" book on the shelves at Amazon.

I would love to see a book discuss the inner workings as you describe. Maybe it will help dispel the rumour that some DAW software is technically superior to other DAW software. Don't they all have 64-bit summing/mixing engines now?

[whomper]

Originally Posted by TonyB

True, but it sounds like you found your niche to get an "internal" book on the shelves at Amazon.

I would love to see a book discuss the inner workings as you describe. Maybe it will help dispel the rumour that some DAW software is technically superior to other DAW software. Don't they all have 64-bit summing/mixing engines now?

roger that
every book i have seen shows the big picture outside
and skips the details inside the pc

I was hoping the supreme overlord commander would finally provide the details in his book(s). that would take beefing up the tutorials though. they are better than others, but still have holes in them where they skip over needed details.

the difference in daw software is probably how well they code it (reliability), quality of the algorithms they use (not all the same), the features they put in (functions), ease of use (especially user interface) , interaction with other software (plays nice with windoze and plug ins etc), cost, speed, .....

GIGO 64 bits does not mean that a DAW is good just has a lot of precision. but precision without accuracy is useless.

[TonyB]

Originally Posted by whomper

I was hoping the supreme overlord commander would finally provide the details in his book(s). that would take beefing up the tutorials though. they are better than others, but still have holes in them where they skip over needed details.

He's leaving that up to you!

Originally Posted by whomper

the difference in daw software is probably how well they code it (reliability), quality of the algorithms they use (not all the same), the features they put in (functions), ease of use (especially user interface) , interaction with other software (plays nice with windoze and plug ins etc), cost, speed, .....

GIGO 64 bits does not mean that a DAW is good just has a lot of precision. but precision without accuracy is useless.

You're right (especially the coding and algorithm quality) and it can get into the "16 vs 24-bit subjectivity wars" or "192khz vs 96khz wars" real fast.

I personally don't hear any sonic difference between the DAW software I've used; so the algorithms are probably pretty close in quality. The big differences for me are the features, functionality, ease of use, and interoperability with other software, including OS.

I would love some insight into the coding and algorithm processes. Maybe there's a book out there somewhere?

[whomper]

Originally Posted by TonyB

He's leaving that up to you!

You're right (especially the coding and algorithm quality) and it can get into the "16 vs 24-bit subjectivity wars" or "192khz vs 96khz wars" real fast.

I personally don't hear any sonic difference between the DAW software I've used; so the algorithms are probably pretty close in quality. The big differences for me are the features, functionality, ease of use, and interoperability with other software, including OS.

I would love some insight into the coding and algorithm processes. Maybe there's a book out there somewhere?

there are books
when i saw them had no time to read them
now i would have to google for them
probably newer ones available too

might not be in one place called "algorithms for DAWs"
more likely scattered in DSP textbooks , and algorithm textbooks, etc.

[TonyB]

Originally Posted by whomper

might not be in one place called "algorithms for DAWs"
more likely scattered in DSP textbooks , and algorithm textbooks, etc.

That's what I don't want to read --> DSP and how DAWs Work

I"m a EE. I've seen my fair share of DSP, Signal Systems, Fourier, etc books.


I'd like to see --> DAWS and how their Guts Work For You