Phase reverse and vocal elimination

[155dbm]

I am new to Pro tools.

I have an MBox 2 with the factory supplied software only.

Does Pro tool have a phase reversal procedure to help reduce or eliminate vocals from stereo recordings.

I have seen the question asked several places but no real answer (that I can understand)

If yes, can someone provide me detailed Instructions?

I have an electronics background and do understand rf, audio and phase. I know that this is a super basic thing that could have/should have been added to the software. Would Pro tools consider this for a "one button" update??

Thanks.

[richiebee]

Split your track into two mono tracks. Flip the phase on one of them (you can do this in the AudioSuite plugins in ProTools). Pan both channels to the centre. Whatever is in the centre of of the stereo field of the original should be gone.

Usually the integrity of the original track is pretty much ruined - bass is often lacking (because it's also typically in the centre). You can put this back a little by adding another track with a low pass filter that filters out everything from the bottom of the vocal range.

Stereo effects on the original vocal (or solo instrumental) have a huge effect on the quality of the results.

ProTools is marketed as a professional product (hence the Pro)... I don't think that Karaoke is really where their market is.

[155dbm]

Thanks for the quick response.

I did think your little Karaoke line was a bit of a put down from and "Old Pro" to the "newbe" was unnecessary.

Pro Tools has now hit the mass market because of price and quality. Everyone who buys the product has a different idea and use for the program. Very few will ever be major producers and some of us have no interest doing so.

I assume you consider yourself a "big time" producer or you are a software engineer.

I also assume that the marketing folks would like to appeal to the largest base possible.

Who knows, one of these new kids looking for the same feature may one day make the big time. If not they will at least enjoy playing with Pro Tools in some unique ways.

I do appreciate your response.

[richiebee]

Originally Posted by 155dbm

Thanks for the quick response.

I did think your little Karaoke line was a bit of a put down from and "Old Pro" to the "newbe" was unnecessary.

Chilax dude... it was very much tongue in cheek. I like to blur the line there to screw with people's minds, but I'm not a snob or feel above anyone on this group. That's one of the things I like about this forum actually... everyone, at every level can learn something from everyone else.

Sorry if it offended you.

[155dbm]

No problem.

I can tell by the posts that you young guys have a different way of communicating than us old farts??

Thanks again for the response.

[richiebee]

Originally Posted by 155dbm

No problem.

I can tell by the posts that you young guys have a different way of communicating than us old farts??

I don't know what you class as young. In two months I celebrate my 40th birthday (I'm not pulling your leg this time either). I guess not having kids of my own keeps me feeling young.

btw - I get the term chilax from my wife... she's equally young, and the term usually annoys me, but it fitted.

oh yeah, and I just read your first post about having a grandson who plays bassoon. One of the instruments I've recorded more this year than any other is bassoon. I work at a university music school and our bassoon student (we only have one) has lessons via video conference which I run - we're in Newfoundland, and his teacher is several thousand kilometers away in Ottawa. Just thought you might find that a little interesting.



R.

[155dbm]

Only 40?? You are still a young whippersnapper. That is a very commonly used word for youth here in the south. I have no idea of the words origion or if it is used in Canadian slang??

One old definition of "whippersnapper" is a kid who farts in the bathtub and snaps at the bubbles???

My daughter is 37 and grandson 13. I am 64 and recently retired.

We have been to western Canada several times and love the area and people, but have never been east of Ontario.

You better get started on those kids so you can have grandkids -- Nothing is better!

"Chilax- - Whippersnapper", then have a great day and better tomorrow!!