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Old 02-03-2008, 09:26 PM
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Default Difference between Pro Tools LE, HD and M POwered

Hi all,

Can someone help me to understand the difference betwene LE, HD and M-powered versions of Pro Tools.
Would mainly like to know about M Powered 7 what exactly is that?

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Old 02-04-2008, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: Difference between Pro Tools LE, HD and M POwered

HD systems are pro systems, starting at about ~ $10,000, probably more. They use PCI cards for the interface (or whatever the modern equivalent of PCI is.) This is the gear you will find in a larger pro studio if PT is their DAW of choice. There are cards dedicated to processing effects, so the PC or Mac is not bogged down in the same way it is with the other 2 versions of PT.

PT LE is the purposely crippled semi-pro version of PT. The current limit on the number of tracks is 32 I think, unless you upgrade to some package that lets you add more tracks, $$$$$$. The amount of effects you can add to a session is limited by the processing power of your computer, unlike the HD systems. The LE systems are marketed toward folks like me, who need an all in one system that has at least one mic preamp and DI for bass or guitar. The preamps are not great, but they are usable, a good starting point for someone tinkering around with recording and not trying to make a living being an audio engineer. The main thing about LE systems is that although you get the PT software, which is either a great thing or a bad thing, depending on what you like, you are absolutely locked into using the Digidesign hardware with it. I can connect either my Mbox or my Digi002 to my ibook, but I HAVE to connect one of them to open a session recorded with PTLE. PTLE and the accompanying hardware comes bundled with stock plugins like reverb and compression and usually with a "special offer" of additional free "Ignition Pack" software; mine came with Melodyne Essential, some amp simulators, a basic version of Ableton Live. Most of that software is a tease to get you to buy the real versions.

M Powered PT was created for the folks who bitched about LE being proprietary. When Avid bought M-Audio, they came up with the concept of being able to choose among different M-Audio interfaces and run the M Powered version of PT with that interface. I am not certain what the track limit is with M Powered, but I bet it is 32 tracks........ You have a lot more choices for interface options if you go this route and the Firewire versions of the hardware from M-Audio, even the simplest of them, will record at 96, whereas the Mbox series offered with LE is still stuck at 48 max (except for the Mbox Pro.) I don't think you get the Ignition Pack software that comes with LE, but you are not really missing much in my opinion. I have picked up in different threads that the M-Audio preamps and hardware are not as good as those in the LE hardware, but I find this hard to believe. M-Audio has several preamps out there that have stood the test of time and are great deals for the money, (DMP3 for one, unfortunately can not be used by itself with this software.)

You wanted to know about the M-Powered 7 software. You can read about it here:

Digidesign | Products | Pro Tools LE & M-Powered | Pro Tools M-Powered | Pro Tools M-Powered

All PT 7.4 versions come with Elastic Audio, whatever that is. I am using 7.3 and I have not even looked into using Beat Detective yet.

Ask your question on the DUC in the M-Powered forum.

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Ask what the pros and cons are of M-Powered vs. LE and see what they have to say.

I think I am coming off kind of negative about Digidesign and Pro Tools, but really, I am pretty happy with my rigs. My Mbox is all I need to do good, solid demos of new songs and the Digi002 rack works well for recording my band live. There are plenty of PT haters out there though.......

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Thanks a lot Bilco , that really helped me to get a good idea and a good orientation about the products. Great

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Being a user of both Pro Tools LE and HD systems I would have to say that the LE system is not as crippled as Bilco makes out. The quality of the AD/DA converters are better in the HD, most pro studios also have far superior word clocks too. HD systems can use TDM plug-ins that are sonically better than RTAS and VST plug-ins (that is why the HD use farm cards for processing).
Pro Tools has never been strong in the Midi department but more recent versions have made significant progress. Pro Tools strengths is mainly in the audio recording world.
The great thing for me is that having Pro Tools LE at home makes it easy to transfer sessions back and forward to other studios I work out of.
Track limitations have never been an issue.
A group called Black Lion Audio do a mod to 002's and 003's that bring thier analouge and AD/DA conversion up to close to Pro Tools HD systems.
Even though you need to use Digidesigns hardware to run Pro Tools you can intergrate other hardware in your setup via ADAT connection.
Yes Pro Tools is not everyones cup of tea but it is a very versatile, stable and powerful software system.
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Being a user of both Pro Tools LE and HD systems I would have to say that the LE system is not as crippled as Bilco makes out. The quality of the AD/DA converters are better in the HD, most pro studios also have far superior word clocks too. HD systems can use TDM plug-ins that are sonically better than RTAS and VST plug-ins (that is why the HDs use farm cards for processing).
Pro Tools has never been strong in the Midi department but more recent versions have made significant progress. Pro Tools strengths are mainly in the audio recording world.
The great thing for me is that having Pro Tools LE at home makes it easy to transfer sessions back and forward to other studios I work out of.
Track limitations have never been an issue.
A group called Black Lion Audio do a mod to 002's and 003's that bring thier analouge and AD/DA conversion up to close to Pro Tools HD systems.
Even though you need to use Digidesigns hardware to run Pro Tools you can intergrate other hardware in your setup via ADAT connection.
Yes Pro Tools is not everyones cup of tea but it is a very versatile, stable and powerful software system.
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Default Re: Difference between Pro Tools LE, HD and M POwered

Looking back at my post, I really did come off more negative than I am. I guess I could say "limited features" instead of crippled.

I really love Pro Tools LE and I'm glad I made the switch to it from Cakewalk products, Cool Edit Pro and N-Track. It does everything I need it too and goes WAAAAY deeper into editing than I have ever needed to venture, but is simple and intuitive to use for basic recordings as well.

My Mbox is still the best tool for laying down demos as a songwriter.

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I agree Bilco, for the singer/songwriter it's like having a very flash tape recorder. It would be nice if one could use their choice of interface though!!
Anyway it's Horses for courses, I have many friends who work on other platforms, Logic, Cubase etc. all very happy too.

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