sonar 7 Newbie Question

[ognirats]

Oh great sages, my question is.....how do I erase the data beyond the fade out? I have burned a tune to Cd....the song is 3:50 long, but it goes almost 8 minutes beyond....is there an easy way to erase all the tracks after the fadeout?..........also, I am struggling with submixes. I am trying to put all the instruments on one fader to quickly bring up/down the music in the headphones, but leave the vocal alone so you can hear it better while singing....any help on that? I have Sonar Producer 7, RME Fireface 800 and 4 whole months of creeping along.....thanks all who chime in. I hope to post a tune soon to get some suggestions on EQ.......Thanks.....Ron:)

[midKnight]

Hey,

I'm sure there's a better sonar guru out there who would suggest a better method than this, but I figured I'd toss this suggestion out there (and who knows, you've probably already figured this out.)

Have you shortened all the clips on the timeline to just a fraction beyond the actual audio data? (you can drag the length of audio clips on the timeline by grabbing either the start or the end of the clip.)

Again, you've probably already found this out, but I always keep my recordings to just the length of the actual audio data.

[ognirats]

Thanks for the info.....I will give it a try!.........I've only had the program for 4 months, so I'm still learning a lot, but having fun........thanks....Ron

[Wun Moshen]

Let me get this right,

after the song fades out (song is over) the track is still playing right?

are you burning the cd with Sonar? if so...

you could try exporting it as a MP3 and see if its still playing after the song goes off, if so... then you might want to check your Locator (start\end point) your song might start at 0m:00sec and end at 9m:20sec you cant miss the locators they look like tiny yellow flags right above the sequencer window (where the time line is located)

let me know if this helps.

[ognirats]

Thanks for the info......am looking at it now, all I can say is "duh"......can't see the trees standing in the forest!.......thanks.....Ron

[jcicc]

BTW, for your submix issue, there is a group function. I don't use it much, so I don't want to give you step by step, but do a find on Group. It basically allows you to group a bunch of tracks together and control their volumes. Re clips playing beyond data, I do what midKnight does and pull the clip to just after the end of the audio.

[adorian]

You can also split all tracks at the cursor after your song is done, then delete everything to the right after the split.

[brenov]

Hello,
I particulary don´t like to use Sonar 7 as my burning software, what I do is to export the project (any extension) and them via Soundforge (or other single-track editor) cut out the silence parts at the begining and ending that Sonar produces.
About the other issue, I would create a new stereo bus (left click at the area locate right above the master bus, then create a new stereo bus) and in your case name it as "strings", after that go to the tracks you want to control as one and select the "strings" option in the track output. This way you´ll not only control the volume but you can add any fx for all at the same time and program any kind of automation either.
I hope I was helpfull,
Forgive me about any grammar error,
Breno Vettorassi

[RicD]

I am not a guru but I will try to help. First, A book i suggest is Sonar 7 the comprehensive guide, by Scott Garrigus,Thomson course technology. It's the straight poop on Sonar. It's not cheap about 50 us I paid for it and it's dogeared from the use. Before you try things on your own songs it gives you options with already loaded tracks to play with.
Second, In the track view you can grab the end of each clip and move the end to where ever you want it to stop. You must move all recorded tracks or it will keep playing. In the drop down menu under global you should check to see if you have auto stop ( I think that's what it's called) checked. if not, check it and that should do it. Sometimes if you hit keys on your keyboard by accident you might hide tracks without knowing it. In the track view hit your m key and a window pops up and you can see if you have any hidden tracks. If there is a track that does not have a check in the box it's hidden and will not show up in your track or console view.
Third, You can have as many busses as you want so you can assign each track to a bus or group to a single bus and use that as a group volume as well as many other options for busses.
In the intrest of keeping this short Let me know what you want to do and don't know how and if I can I will help you figure out how to get the program to do it.
I've been using Sonar 7 for a bout 8 months and it was my first recording software. It takes awhile to learn but it will do alot. I am glad to help if I can.
I guess I'm still old school enough to want to record on Tape. But sotware is the bomb for flexability!
Ric
P.S. good thing I'm a pilot cause I can't write well or type. LoL

[BudmanRocks]

OK I think I know what you want to do. After you mix it down you have extra time running. Here's what ya do. Take the mix down and open just it back up in sonar. Then you can edit the length and fade it out with out doing anything to your origanal tracks. The other thing, just make another sub group for your vocal and set it to go to the master. Make another subgroup for the instruments and send it to the master. Then you will have a seperate fader for the overall mix(master), One for the vocal, and one for the instruments. I hope this helps you out.