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__________________ AfaraWayland When in doubt, always seek professional legal counsel. Ha Ha! -Phil Ken Sebben Last edited by AfaraWayland; 05-13-2007 at 09:50 PM. |
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Be careful... I have not totally read this thread but some of the info is totally innacurate. Form SR is used when you are copyrighting an "event" or sound recordings contained on a disc for "mechanical" uses - which is an over simplification but you should get the jist. Form PA and it's continuation for are what you want if you are registering "collections" of music. You will want PA and the continuation form for your uses. Each form has the provision to copyright either published or unpublished material. When in doubt, just call them. They are very friendly and will answer your questions. Another place I recommend is the FMPRO mailing list. dach |
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Please be more specific as to the said innaccuracies here. I submit that having not read the thread, you are incorrect in accusing the information here as innacurate. Further, I submit that your understanding of copyright is faulty. Here's my case: Quote:
That said, what you are suggesting, to use a PA form instead of a SR is totally opposite of what is suggested by the Copyright Office. I fully appreciate the challenge of substantiating anything I say here, and would only ask you to do the same. I am not a final authority, nor do I claim to be. I encourage each one of you to engage in your own searches to find what is what. If I am wrong and it is proven, I will gladly correct my error. After all, we're all here to learn.
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That said, I also appreciate people taking part in the discussion. Dach brought up a good point. Which form do I use??? -more to follow...
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Stuff you've copied from the site I assume is OK. It's just when you try to interpret the meaning is when the problem happens. The following is NOT good advice. CALL the copyright office for clarification or ask someone who's actually had to fill out more than a couple. Also note the differences between SONG, COLLECTION and MASTER RECORDING. Quote:
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Dach, I agree with you that anyone who has questions about Copyright should 1, contact a real entertainment lawyer, and 2, call the Copyright office to ask questions.
__________________ AfaraWayland When in doubt, always seek professional legal counsel. Ha Ha! -Phil Ken Sebben Last edited by AfaraWayland; 06-21-2007 at 06:14 AM. |
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I have recently revisted the copyright site and learned that Dach is correct for a few reasons. Someone in my situation, who writes and records my own material, would be wise to use an SR form to register both the sound recording and the underlying work (song) at one time. Its cheaper that way. Other situations require other forms. Example Artist writes song, Label records song. In this case it would seem to me that the artist would seek to obtain copyright for the song, and the Label would seek copyright of the sound recording. Since the claimants are not the same, the SR form is not applicable. A PA form is used for musical compositions and dramatic works (performing arts) captured on disk or cassette. Using a PA form does not copyright the sound recording, but the dramatic work therein. Here is a helpful chart I found:Chart-scroll down The chart specifically proves that Dach is correct. It also shows that I am partly correct as well. --- To all forumm viewers- I apologize to Dach for arguing with him (above). I appreciate being proven wrong, as it keeps me humble, and helps me learn. I invite all of you to challenge the things I write here. Again, it is obvious that I am not to be considered as legal council. USE MY INTERPRETATIONS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I have already been shown wrong once, and I probably will be again. I'll try to stay cool the next time I am called to make account. Dach, I ask for your forgiveness. -Andrew
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i have a question about publishing multiple works as one. I saw in a link that if all songs are cowritten by two people it qulifys. Could it still be registered as a single fee if all music was by one person and all lyrics were by a different person. for example all music by bob and all lyrics by james |
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