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Can I mail my songz back to me for now until I can afford to do it the legit way.I know that they got be on file with the U.S. when it comes to court action.But I thought that I could may use the cheapest option for them bite masters on the streetz in my surroundings. I do plan to file them with the U.S. one song at a time when I can afford it Do u have the address to where I mailed them to?I got one online already and just wanna see what u got.The one I got is the U.S. library Of Cogress fuck somthing like that.....Let me Know Something.....
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The idea is that a person sends their own material to themself through certified US mail. Through the process the package receives a time and date stamp from the post office. The sender receives the package and leaves the package "unopened." Here is where the presumed 'proof of date/proof of ownership before date' poor man's copyright is born. **A big part of the 'burden of proof' in copyright cases is to prove the originality of the work and present evidence (in disputes) of when exactly a work was created. The sender assumes that by obtaining an un-opened copy of his original work that has been sent as certified mail, he has acheived some level of what the law calls "Prima Facie Evidence." Unfortunately According to the entertainment lawyer and professor I spoke with about this issue: "a poor-man's copyright will NOT hold up in court." ---- more on copyright registration coming... |
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| RE: Copyright Registration vs. Poor-Man's Copyright (PMC) ------ Considering the fact that PMC does not hold up in court (nor is it recognized by the US Copyright Office,) and that the method of sending material (certified) through the US postal service can cost a considerable amount, it is better to officially register your material through the US Copyright Office. A person would save a truck load of time and frustration, not to mention money spent on legal fees/court costs involved in arguing a non-registered yet PMC'd work in court, by simply using official government registration procedures. The current fee for registrating a work is $45.00. A registrant is allowed to register a small collection of unpublished works as one work provided that they meet the requirements listed here: http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ56.html#unpublished This would provide for official registration for multiple, unpublished works as a single work (in essence, an album or collection of works) IF all of the works have the same author(s) or owner(s), and only require a single registration fee of $45.00. Instructions/forms for registering Sound Recordings with the US Copyright Office can be found here: http://www.copyright.gov/register/sound.html --- *If a collection of works is to be registered as a single work, the author or authors/owner or owners MUST BE THE SAME for all of the works in the collection. |
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The exact words are found here: What is a Copyright Courtesy of the Federal Government: A copyright is a right extended to the author of an original work to- Quote:
The next article of confusion is when does a copyright/copyright protection exist? |
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A large amount of confusion exists in a portion of the industry over this one... A copyright and Federal copyright protection applies at the first moment when an original work is transfixed in a "Tangible Medium of Expression." [T.M.o.E = paper, CD, analog tape, even...hard drive!] That's it. Registration not required. The Federal Gov. will protect the owner from copyright infringement the moment the work is transfixed, provided that the owner prove authorship and originality, and provided the work complies with the language of the US Copyright act. ---- As, said registration is NOT required. However...it may be very beneficial... Quote:
"Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation." This means that should ever a dispute arise over the ownership/use of copyright, YOU will be required to defend/prosecute your claim in a federal court of law. Unregistered works have federal protection, and that protection allows one to pursue a copyright infringer/infringement UP TO the point of these possible outcomes: 1. the government orders infringer to stop infringement under penalty of law. 2. the government orders the destruction of illicit copies involved in the infringement. That's all. Hear me clearly on this: In order to seek "damages" from an infringement/infringer the work MUST BE REGISTERED PRIOR TO THE INFRINGEMENT. Damages Defined hence, "Registered works may be eligible for statutory damages and attorney's fees in successful litigation." So, if you want to fully protect your original work, and leave yourself ALL avenues of recompensation in light of a dispute or infringement on your copyrights...REGISTER YOUR WORKS. Last edited by AfaraWayland; 05-12-2007 at 03:50 AM. |
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Great thread. I made it a sticky! I've got a question. What are my options as far as copywriting is concerned. Let me explain my situation a little more. I sit down with Cubase and write little 30-60 pieces of noise that I can use for future songs, nothing, or whatever. I just sit down and make something. I try to crank out 30 of these per month. I feel that some of these have just as good of shot of making it on a Verizon commercial (or whatever) as anything else. Is there an affordable (and hopefully simple an quick) method for me to copyright large bodies of music? Brandon |
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I believe that you can register a whole cd of work using one form/registration fee, as long as every single song was written by the same person/people. -Tyler |
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Hey Brandon, Thanks! Here is some basic information courtesy US Copyright Office: Quote:
Published works however, in your case, say individual noises or samples that had previously been published outside of a collection would have to be registered by themselves (as far as I know). A released/published album would need to have been released/published as an album/collection in order to register the album/collection [as a title-containing several works,etc....] --- You could, in theory, register "Brandons Bangin' Bring tha Noise Vol. X" that contained a theoretical infinite number of individual noises/sounds/etc (according to the language)...but again, in any copyright situation, the content must be original. You may end up having to defend your collective works originality should anyone ever dispute your claim to the supposed originality, or should any dispute arise over whether your material is similar to someone elses (to the point where someone can suppose copying/infringement). With sampling/noise-making, especially with collections, how can a person know whether a sound you made will not be construed as similiar if not the same as a sound someone else made? Those sorts of debates play out every day in court. --- Quote:
Say you created an original sound, then used that sound to create other sounds...well the first sound would be classified as an original copyright(able) work, the others...would be classified as a derivative of the original work. The derivative works could only be copyright(able) to the extent of the new material added, leaving the original material still holding the original copyright. What is a derivative work Quote:
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In this case, you'd have to seek permission from the original work copyright owner (if any) to register a derivative work. So, in the case of samples and noises, if you created a new sample and noise that was based on the sample/noise of an original work under copyright protection, you'd first need to contact the author of the original work and discuss your intentions. -Andrew
__________________ AfaraWayland When in doubt, always seek professional legal counsel. Ha Ha! -Phil Ken Sebben Last edited by AfaraWayland; 05-13-2007 at 09:41 PM. |
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