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Old 06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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hi there

I am trying to import a drum loop. It is 75 bpm so I set the tempo and import the loop.

Unfortunately the bars do not match up and it almost seems like the sound has been revamped slower.

Am I missing somethin?
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I'm not sure, cubase was never like acid for me.

In acid you set whatever tempo you want and it's in time.

Cubase is supposed to have some abilities in that regard but I've never done it.

I know that when you import a .wav file it get's imported just as it is, cubase doesn't change it, don't know what you have to do if you wanted to "make it fit" the way acid does.

Does it sound the same in cubase as it does in Windows media player, tempo wise?

Play it to a click track?

If it was an MP3 it has to have the front trimmed.
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hi there

I am trying to import a drum loop. It is 75 bpm so I set the tempo and import the loop.

Unfortunately the bars do not match up and it almost seems like the sound has been revamped slower.

Am I missing somethin?
I don't know what version of Cubase you have..The 4 series (and higher I guess) have what is called "musical mode" which DOES change tempo of loops to fit the BPM of the project. "Music Mode" is accessed only in the sample editor and has a button with a music note (or G clef, I forget) on it. Music mode may be on and changing your loop tempo a bit.

However, I have often had clips that professed to be a certain BPM but were ever so slightly off compared to what Cubase said. You can play around with it by using the "time stretch" feature to make the loop fit the project perfectly -or- you can also micromanage the Cubase project tempo such as making it 75.03 or 74.85 or whatever until it fits.
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Hi

Thanks for the answers.

I am using Cubase LE 4 and when i listen to the samples in media player or even the preview they sound correct. As soon as I import them into Cubase they sound exactly like they have been slowed down. Kind of warbling (if that is a word).

I have read about music mode but when I look into the sample editor I have no button that resembles the musical note as per the instruction manual.

All I really want is to take a recording that is 75bpm and import it so that it plays at 75bpm. Ideally fitting within the snapped bar sections so I can easily copy and paste to build a song.

I guess I can live with it if the samples do not match to the exact bar but I cannot have the samples resampled at a slower speed.

Any other ideas I could check?

Thanks a lot
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Hi

Thanks for the answers.

I am using Cubase LE 4 and when i listen to the samples in media player or even the preview they sound correct. As soon as I import them into Cubase they sound exactly like they have been slowed down. Kind of warbling (if that is a word).

I have read about music mode but when I look into the sample editor I have no button that resembles the musical note as per the instruction manual.

All I really want is to take a recording that is 75bpm and import it so that it plays at 75bpm. Ideally fitting within the snapped bar sections so I can easily copy and paste to build a song.

I guess I can live with it if the samples do not match to the exact bar but I cannot have the samples resampled at a slower speed.

Any other ideas I could check?

Thanks a lot
If it sounds warbled perhaps your sample frequency is mismatched..Make sure your project is set to 44.1 kHz and see if that helps...

Also, try right clicking on the clip and select Advanced > Stretch to Project Tempo.

The instructions for musical mode are on page 119 of your Cubase manual.
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Default Re: timing issues when importing drum loops

Thanks. Yes I found the reference already on this page but I do not have the musical note that it refers to on this page. Perhaps the version I have does not tally 100% with the manual?

I will try the other things you have mentioned as well.

Thanks a lot for the continued help.
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Thanks. Yes I found the reference already on this page but I do not have the musical note that it refers to on this page. Perhaps the version I have does not tally 100% with the manual?

I will try the other things you have mentioned as well.

Thanks a lot for the continued help.
Well, this morning I had five minutes before work and I couldn't find it either! But I have seen it in the past so where the heck did it go??? I will experiment some more this evening.
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Great thanks - at least it is not just me being stupid!

Thanks for your help!
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Default Re: timing issues when importing drum loops

I have found an option called "straighten up" which when unticked specifically for one audio import does allow it to play normally and fit within the bar but it would seem that I have to do this each and every time and I still do not understand why the "straighten up" will be taking it out of time in the first place.
Don't know if this may help shed any light on what is going wrong?
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