Change Tempo without changing midi

[Jamsome]

I'm trying to record a song, and what i'd like to do, would be to do as though i were recording with regular audio but by using midi. i'm using sx3, and what i record midi and then change tempo using the beat calculator when it changes everything it changes my midi along with it. now this makes good sense most of the time, but is there any way to temporarily disable this?

i'd like to be able to just play, and then change the tempo according to what i play, and then maybe clean it up with quantize features.

[brandondrury]

I must admit that I never use the Beat Calculator thingy so I may not be the best person to answer this.

What exactly are you trying to change the tempo of? It sounds like you are referring to an individual track.

To edit MIDI is a no brainer. I'm not really sure about editing tempos of wav files. I never do it. I just get the track right when it goes down.

Brandon

[tacman7]

I've run into this but I'm a little foggy in my mind exactly what to do in what situation.

I had a guy do some drums for me, he sent me the audio, worked fine, it went along with my song just fine. Then I asked for the midi, he had recorded to my audio track without regard to where the tempo was set. So when I opened the midi it was all over the place. Never did get that figured out.

I know there is a button in the inspector with a picture of a quarter note on it...

-----------------from manual............
Switching between musical or linear time base
Tracks can be either “musical” (tempo) or “linear” (time) based.
• On a track using linear time base, the events will be positioned on specific
time positions – changing the playback tempo will not affect the time position
of events.
• On a track using musical time base, the positions of events are represented as
meter values (bars, beats, 1/16th notes and ticks, with 120 ticks per 1/16th
note). If you change the playback tempo, the events will play back at an earlier
or later time.
Whether to use musical or linear time base depends on the type of
project and recording situation. By default, all track types featuring a
time base setting use linear time base. However, you can change this
setting individually for each track. This is done by clicking the musical/
linear time base button in the Inspector or Track list. Musical time
base is indicated by a note symbol, while linear time base is indicated
by a clock symbol.

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There's some good articles about changing timing to match drums and other subjects at the sound on sound website, search for cubase notes and look over the last year or two.

[Jamsome]

that musical linear thing might be what i could use, but i think i was already in linear which is the part that confuses me. especially if they say it;s the default.


the reason i'd like to do this, is just because say i wrote a song on piano. i don't want to try and find the tempo in some unattached way.

i;d just like to play it. select a section, say the verse, call that a clip, and tell cubase that it's x beats long.

then cubase changes the tempo of the track to match that.


then i can clean up the verse, or just keep the track at that tempo, program some drums in there, and then play the verse over it again.

at the tempo i like to play the song in.

otherwise i'd need to play it, and then try to tap tempo the thing.

but the beat calculator is ok.

i don't mind just finding the tempo that way, and then replaying the piece. no big deal. i'd want to make a drum track anyways so i can record the rest of the tune all on rhythm anyways.

i just hate metronomes. too unmusical. i need to program drums instead. even just simple temporary ones.

[tacman7]

I sometimes have to find the tempo I'm looking for but it can be difficult.

I track to a simple drum beat. Then start slowing it down or speeding it up till I get what I want. Also the drum beat your using can make a difference. Half tempo feel.

I've had to match something made by someone else by selecting what should be 4 beats and use the beat calculator. Then rounding it off to what was probably used because they were tracking at 120BPM and the calculator will give you 119.625 or something.

So you say you 'want' to do this? Problem is your not playing to a beat so you might have different tempos at different times, best to select 1 bar of your recording to calculate. Give it a try.

[Jamsome]

ya that's what i do, I think no matter how good you are there will be slight variations in tempo throughout a tune if you're playing alone.

i just record one bar, and then find the tempo and then make a beat for it.

but originally what i wanted to do was record one bar, and then find tempo, round off and keep what i had recorded.

the problem was Cubase would change the tempo of the recorded midi by the same amount the original project changed. which i didn't want.

but now i figure, whatever, who cares, i'll just record another loop. it's easier than quantizing anyways.