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Old 06-24-2006, 06:42 PM
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I know this may quite subjective, but I was just wondering what Toontrack Drums are the ones to buy. Really, they all look pretty good and it seams it's just a matter of taste.

http://www.toontrack.com/

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Old 06-25-2006, 07:52 PM
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You will want DFHS and C&V for final tracks.... You will write extremely fast with EZ drummer although you don't have 1/10th the control... but it's still great.

If you are extremely limited on cash and plan to write and have limited experience programming or don't have an e-kit.... EZ Drummer all the way ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

there's a couple of guys that post songs there where you can get an idea of the drum sounds... FredGBH is one I think and do a search for "Jacker"... they'll tell you what they used so you can get a better idea.... I personally couldn't live without all of them!
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I know this may quite subjective, but I was just wondering what Toontrack Drums are the ones to buy.? Really, they all look pretty good and it seams it's just a matter of taste.?

http://www.toontrack.com/

Any preferences?

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They sound great... my only down-thought is that they are overkill. The shear number of samples. Really? Anyone need that many?

But it looks pretty good value, and they sound excellent.
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Old 06-26-2006, 01:46 PM
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They sound great... my only down-thought is that they are overkill. The shear number of samples. Really? Anyone need that many?
Doesn't much of that have to do with the control you have over bleed? It seams that this allows for exponentially more combinations of tone and therefor extra GB of samples.

I'll tell you what, though. As a guy coming from the other side of the fence, I'm not sure how I would live without that bleed. It's extremely important for me to sound "natural". I want to fool my old clients into thinking that I have simply "gotten better". I don't want any read flags going off that my recordings are "too clean".

Of course, I'm just spitting off what the marketing has programmed me to say. We'll see if I'm still saying this in a month! ;D


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If you are extremely limited on cash and plan to write and have limited experience programming or don't have an e-kit.... EZ Drummer all the way ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
Hmm. That does sound like me.
However, I don't want to puss out here. I don't mind taking the more advanced, hand on road if I can eventually become a badass with full control over my sequencer. Then again, if EZ Drummer is a valuable writing tool to you, Dach, maybe that's the approach I need to take.
The ultimate goal is for the midi part of recording to be as seamless, efficient, and quick as possible. I want to get a person's ideas down immediately, switch to some samples, adjust some levels, and have a solid rough mix. I can spent hours agonizing over the details later.
I'm not THAT short on cash, I'm just trying to figure out where I want to put the little cash that I do have. If EZ Drummer can speed up the writing process, it should be worth the price. If I remember correctly, it was listed at $165 on the Toontrack site.
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:02 PM
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Well you can't have it all and if you can, it just takes a while to get to know things.

Buy DFHS, C&V, EZ Drummer from Toontrack.... they are worth it!
Buy an e-kit if you can afford it, if not, get ready to program or use EZ Drummer midi files

Buy a Bass and have one or 2 to borrow

You already have access to guitars/amps

If you are hardcore cranking them out, you may want something like Guitar Rig 2 so you can record bass, gtrs, etc directly into the program for speeds sake.

Eventually you will want K2, and tons of samples but for now, why don't you look into a keyboard/controller with sounds and maybe a rack mount sound module or 2... they are cheap on the bay...

what else are you looking to do/write?
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