ok question about MIDI

[dizzledude]

what the heck does the pencil tool do for midi?
cant you just set your midi track's output to wahtever you're going to record like for example reason redrum
and then set the instruments track output to reason rewire
and then just record midi like that?
whats the point for the pencil tool
btw, this is all in pro tools le
thanks

[MR.BYTCH KILLA]

Originally Posted by dizzledude

what the heck does the pencil tool do for midi?
whats the point for the pencil tool
btw, this is all in pro tools le
thanks

I dont even know what a pencil tool is suppose to do.Can this be explain?
If u dont mind?

Im out...

[brandondrury]

cant you just set your midi track's output to wahtever you're going to record like for example reason redrum
and then set the instruments track output to reason rewire
and then just record midi like that?

Yes.

I'm not a Pro Tools user, but I'll assume that the Pencil Tool is similar to that in Cubase. I'm guessing it lets you draw in midi data. If this is the case, there are many times where I may want to draw in MIDI. I do this most with drums. Of course, a person can always enter the MIDI / play the part using a MIDI controller of some kind. This is usually the prefered method.

Brandon

[richiebee]

Express yourself!

[Charlie_M]

Ya the pencil allows you to draw in little lines into the drum lanes in reason. Every time there is a mark in the drum lane that drum gets triggered at that time. Take this in the right way but you seem new to this (so am I ) so I’ll suggest a few basic things that helped me to at least get things off the ground using redrum.

First of all I’d imagine that the sequencer (I think it’s called a pattern generator within redrum) requires a lot of skill and quality time spent with it to accomplish anything fancy, but for a straight simple rock (or other) groove it definitely offers a simplicity and precision that I found hard to duplicate using a midi controller (or the pencil!)

I thought I could put down a simple drum track using a keyboard input device. I tried that once and it sucked. Initially I avoided the sequencer because I didn’t want it to sound like a machine, but when a drummer friend of mine told me that sounding like a machine would be a step in the right direction compared to my initial drum track with the midi input device, I had to go back and have a rethink on that one. Sequencer is what I use now.

As far as actual use of the pattern generator in redrum: Once you get a pattern in there that you like, line up the L and R markers in the sequencer window with the exact beat where you want the pattern to begin and end. Then, with pattern selection enabled on the redrum device, right click on it and you’ll get a menu that offers you the option of copying the current pattern to trach. Select that and the pattern appears in the sequencer window between the L and R markers.

I’m still very much in learning mode with redrum. All of what I have said here, I know to be correct because I’ve done it (in the windows version – mac may or may not be the same). There may however be better ways to do all these things. Maybe a more seasoned reason user can chime in on that.

From your remarks I take it that you know how to get reason output into protools via rewire. If not, basically it goes in there as a plugin (under “instrument” plugin submenu). You do need to select an output within protools for the channel in order to hear anything (like any other channel in that respect).

[krissy longfella]

the pencil allows you to write in info, this is quite a common process rather than direct recording, i write electro house which using lots arps, delays, when using in midi edit in place thisa allow me to see the added notes and effects that with the pencil tool its so quick to be able to make youre calculations and write in rather than go through the whole recording process, plus this way youre garanteed the midi data is accurate.

[siski]

I couldn't do without the editing functions for MIDI (pencil, erase etc...) coz I'm so crap at playing keyboards. First I lay down my MIDI instrument track by playing it the best I can (which is crap) on the keyboard and then go in and move, shorten, elongate, delete notes and pencil in new ones etc...

Thank fuck for this tool.

Si