New to midi controllers. what the cc?

[muffinguy]

I have just bought myself a m-audio radium midi controller, and have a stack of VSTI's I wish to use it with. My problem is that some instruments have a midi learn function which is great, but with some vst's I dont know what cc# messages are being sent from a knob to assign to my M-audio controllers. Am i missing something?
I am using minihost as my vst host.

[tacman7]

Search for, find, and download a free program, midi ox.

This lets you see just what your device is putting out in real time, essential tool for automation.

[muffinguy]

I thought there might be such a utility, I searched google for cc monitors etc, but most of them didn't do what I intended. Thanks for the reply. cheers.

[richiebee]

You don't need to know - that's the whole point of the learn function. You press the learn button, twiddle a knob, and it assigns automatically.

The manual for your keyboard should have instructions on how to change the cc's sent by each knob.

The manuals for your VSTi's should tell you what controllers are readily available for use with your keyboard controller.

[richiebee]

I should also add that there are standards. The flexible nature of VSTi's means that those standards are pretty loosely interpreted in order to make the most of each and every VI, but the standards are a good place to start.

The standards are in Table 3 on this page - MIDI Message Table 1

Decimal is the cc number.

[muffinguy]

I'm sort of starting to get my hear around this a little more now.
Midi ox is great utility, but didint really help much as I know what my keyboard is sending, but wasnt sure as how to assign this to the vsti's knobs and controls.

The table is also very helpful as some vst programmers included cc assignments within the instrument which usually follow this standard.

I needed to get my head around the concept that the vsti knobs when changed manually (with a mouse ) were not generating CC messages, but a CC message needs to be assigned to them to change thier value from a midi device...( note to self.. got it? )

So I am now looking for a midi learn function ( great little tool ) more vsti's should have them, also the reference manual for the Vsti sometimes includes a table of assigned CC messages (note to self 2... read the manual dude), and I've also discovered a function called mod matrix with some vsti's which seems to allow me to control some of the variables.

Having said all that...it's been a long time since I've worked with midi.

Thanks guys.


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