Midi Question

[muzikmayja757]

I have a Korg Triton Pro X and a Roland JV-1080 rack module and basicially what I am trying to do is use two midi cables so that I can layer both synths but use the JV-1080's functions to control the Triton. How can I pull this off? What would happen if I ran both midi cables into the in/outs of both the Triton and JV-1080?

[tacman7]

Hook it up and see, it's not going to blow up.

In to out, out to in.

Does the rack modules send midi when you call up programs?

What functionality are you trying to control with the rack?

They have programs in different locations so if you selected patch 538 on the roland and it sent a patch change out to the korg and it chose patch 538...

They organize their banks differently so you would probably get it calling up strange patches.

The usual method is to control a rack from your keyboard. My mo6 has performance mode where you can set it to send certain patches out to a rack when you choose a certain voice etc.

That way you would find out exactly what voice you want on the roland #538 and program that into the keyboard so when you hit voice #12 or whatever it would send out patch #538 and you would have the layer you want.

I don't know of Korg has something like that, probably does.

[ashta]

hi there, I have a dm5 alesis but haven't use the midi part because I don't have a midi cable. anyway, I maybe able to have a midi to usb cable but here's my question,can I use the midi to usb cable on the DM5 to connect to my computer and will cubase sx3 recognizes it?

[tacman7]

I've seen some problems with the really cheap midi interfaces.

There is no midi cable, they might call it that but it's an interface.

[muzikmayja757]

Originally Posted by tacman7

Hook it up and see, it's not going to blow up.

In to out, out to in.

Does the rack modules send midi when you call up programs?

What functionality are you trying to control with the rack?

They have programs in different locations so if you selected patch 538 on the roland and it sent a patch change out to the korg and it chose patch 538...

They organize their banks differently so you would probably get it calling up strange patches.

The usual method is to control a rack from your keyboard. My mo6 has performance mode where you can set it to send certain patches out to a rack when you choose a certain voice etc.

That way you would find out exactly what voice you want on the roland #538 and program that into the keyboard so when you hit voice #12 or whatever it would send out patch #538 and you would have the layer you want.

I don't know of Korg has something like that, probably does.

I guess what I'm trying to do is, control the Triton with the JV-1080 module. I prefer to use the JV-1080 for functioning instead of the Triton. The Triton has like this annoying glitch (in which everything stops for a second when changing sounds, screens, transposing, or whatever).

[tacman7]

That's not a glitch, it just takes time to change patches with some synths, especially more complex ones like korg.

It wouldn't matter where you control it from it would still be the korg patches, so if you changed it from the roland it would still take time to change.

Are you just wanting to play on the korg and hear the roland?

[muzikmayja757]

Originally Posted by tacman7

That's not a glitch, it just takes time to change patches with some synths, especially more complex ones like korg.

It wouldn't matter where you control it from it would still be the korg patches, so if you changed it from the roland it would still take time to change.

Are you just wanting to play on the korg and hear the roland?

I beg to differ on that one. I had another keyboard in the past (Yamaha S-30) and I used to midi the Triton with it and when I transposed keys on the Triton using the S30, it was very fluent. There were no pauses or anything. It just changed keys. Even when I changed patches on the S30, it didn't give me that pause. As soon as I unplugged the midi cable and used the Triton alone, there's that frustrating pause. That's what I am talking about. Will I be able to do on the JV-1080 what I was able to do on the S30?

[tacman7]

Well sure there are midi keyboards that can change patches quickly or whatever but when a machine gets more complex you loose that functionality. Unless you get into the high dollars where they have redundant sound engines for smooth transitions.

My SW1000xg which is a rompler could change patches instantly but today's synths use a lot more memory and it takes time to load.

I don't know, the korg could have a problem but I wouldn't be surprised if every other one worked just the same.

The point is Your still controlling the same synth. So if you do it with a button on the keyboard or a button on a sound module sent to the keyboard the result will be the same, your changing the sound engine in the keyboard.

I don't know how much functionality a sound module can transmit. This stuff is a lot easier to figure out if you connect everything to a computer.

[muzikmayja757]

Originally Posted by tacman7

Well sure there are midi keyboards that can change patches quickly or whatever but when a machine gets more complex you loose that functionality. Unless you get into the high dollars where they have redundant sound engines for smooth transitions.

My SW1000xg which is a rompler could change patches instantly but today's synths use a lot more memory and it takes time to load.

I don't know, the korg could have a problem but I wouldn't be surprised if every other one worked just the same.

The point is Your still controlling the same synth. So if you do it with a button on the keyboard or a button on a sound module sent to the keyboard the result will be the same, your changing the sound engine in the keyboard.

I don't know how much functionality a sound module can transmit. This stuff is a lot easier to figure out if you connect everything to a computer.

I see what you are saying now tacman7, and thanks alot. What I want to do is simply used the Triton to control the JV-1080 and vice versa. Will I be able to do that by running to midi cable. This is for live situations.