Midi data path in the box??

[woods]

Lets say you have a DAW with two hard drives. And you got BFD (on the second hard drive) for drum sounds and Cubase application on your first drive.

Now lets say you are using a set of electronic pads through the Alesis I/O and into DAW via USB.

You want that midi info to trigger the BFD samples. Then send the sounds back out firewire to a MOTU 828mkII to listen to the sounds thru headphones as you're playing the drum pads.

What is the path that the ones and zeroes take in the computer from when midi first goes in to comp until the data leaves via firewire on its way to the MOTU??

Eg. Can you describe the process including what stuff might jump up to RAM, when the CPU processess and what, when cubase gets the samples from the second drive, and how does it know to go to a second drive to get the samples etc etc.....

Thanks,

Woods

[brandondrury]

You hit a snare drum pad. The signal goes to your brain/module. The module converts it to MIDI. This MIDI goes into your computer (via audio interface or USB). The device must be engaged in Cubase and if it is you should see a little light thingy flash in the transport bar every time you strike a drum.

The incoming MIDI data must be routed to a MIDI track.

That MIDI track must be routed to BFD2 (which you have already loaded via F11).

BFD2 knows where the samples are because when you installed it you had to indentify the location of the samples.

When the appropriate MIDI data hits BFD2, a sample will be triggered. This will flow through the channel in Cubase to the stereo bus to the whatever audio interface outputs you selected in the F4 menu to your playback system which you have hooked to those outputs.

Brandon

[woods]

Can you send individual channels out as opposed to just stereo.

I want to send kick, snare, hh, and overheads to individual tracks on my HD24.

[tacman7]

What's happening in the box is transparent to the user. As a user I don't want to know how it works, just want it to work.

But you wouldn't put bfd and cubase on different drives.

The point of two drives is to avoid disturbing your audio recording/playing with system calls to windows or other programs, so one drive does audio only or audio and storage of something you wouldn't use while your recording.

I put windows and all applications on one drive then have an audio only drive(the fastest drive).
May be some things could be on the audio disk but I don't see any advantage to it other than if you don't have room on your first drive. But with 750gb drive going for $90 there shouldn't be any storage problem now days.

[brandondrury]

The point of two drives is to avoid disturbing your audio recording/playing with system calls to windows or other programs, so one drive does audio only or audio and storage of something you wouldn't use while your recording.

Correct.

Can you send individual channels out as opposed to just stereo.

I want to send kick, snare, hh, and overheads to individual tracks on my HD24.

Yes, No, and "It's complicated". Let me explain.

I know that Drummer Superior 2.0 (a direct competitor of BFD2) definitely allows about as flexible routing as a person could imagine. Superior 2.0 actually comes with a built in mixer that I didn't think I'd ever use but it turns out that I love it. So the answer is yes.

However, how did you plan on getting these (we'll say 12) tracks to your recorder all in sync? You'd need an audio interface with 12 outputs. I don't even have that but I do all my mixing in the box. Maybe you have an audio interface with at least 12 outputs. Then this would work.

It always gets troublesome when you start wanting to combine computer world stuff with the hardware world. I'm a big believer in all or nothing.

Brandon

[woods]

I have the MOTU 828MKII. I was thinking of coming out of DAW via fire wire into the MOTU. Then coming out of the MOTU via 8 channel light pipe into an Alesis HD24.

Does that sound possible?

Thanks,

Woods

[brandondrury]

Okay, so you have a real audio interface. If that's the case, you could certainly send 8 channels out of your MOTO into your HD24. It should be very straight forward.

Brandon