Drum machine start/stop

[2oldman]

Alesis sr16 drums, ( I know, it's old), Cakewalk Sonar 6

I want to have more control over the drum machine than "start at the beginning and stop when there's no more MIDI information in any other tracks." I do this thru the Option, Project menu.

What I want is "start when I tell you to, stop when I tell you to, and start again when I tell you to. "

Do I need an SR18 (or eq), or better software to do this?

[tacman7]

Seems like the SR can start and stop with a footswitch, you could do that then disable the midi clock.

You don't want it in time with your sequencer?

You want to program these start stops or is this a live thing?

If program, easier to just put the midi in your sequencer and use the SR as a module.

[edub357]

are you using midi? hook up a midi to the out and if your interface has a midi input slap it in. the keybord will control the drum machine then.

[2oldman]

OK, I guess I need to be more specific.

Yes, this is MIDI. My computer sequencer goes thru a Tascam US122, VoiceLive2, drum machine, and ends at a Yamaha piano.

My Sonar 6 software has this: Options, Project, Sync, Send MIDI sync, Transmit MIDI start/continue/stop clock. This is what I use to start the drum machine when the song starts. This is the only way I know of to start the drum machine with midi. I do not want to use my finger or a footswitch. I want the track is in sync with the drums.

What MIDI method, if any, is there available to start AND stop the drums as needed?

thanks

[edub357]

is there a function that shows enabling midi on track 1,2,3, etc you want to make sure there transmitting from all midi channels.

[tacman7]

Your sequencer is sending a midi clock message (?start/stop).

You find out exactly what that message is, record it or look it up.

Then embed it in your track as needed.

[2oldman]

You mean look it up as in 'google'?

[tacman7]

Look it up on the midi sites but yes google.

Like this:

MIDI Messages
Songstuff: Midi Message Format



You use midi-Ox? Good program to see what the real midi messages look like.

Have the SR send out midi clock and see what it's sending when you push start.

[2oldman]

Thank you. After some googling and the Sonar Help files, I found CC 4 is 'footswitch.' That's the only good news. I can't seem to find the right data to control the start/stop. I'll keep at it.. maybe that OX program will help.

This shouldn't be so difficult!

[2oldman]

I used the OX Midi sync transport. It started and stopped the drum machine just fine. That's great, but I can't translate any of what's in the log file to something I can use. (

I'm getting the sinking feeling Start and Stop are Events I don't get to put in my tracks.. as this is designed to start and stop the entire song. But we'll see where this goes.


Examples of all 3 types of dumps:



# MIDI-OX Version: 7.0.0.365
# MIDI To Text Format - Opened: Sat 10-Oct-2009 22:20:13
# The first MIDI event received will initiate timestamps
MFile 0 1 120
MTrk
0 TimeSig 4/4 24 8
0 Tempo 500000


000036FB MOX 2 FA -- -- -- --- Start <----------THIS is what I need!!
00003711 MOX 2 F8 -- -- -- --- Timing Clock
0000372A MOX 2 F8 -- -- -- --- Timing Clock
0000391E MOX 2 F8 -- -- -- --- Timing Clock
0000391F MOX 2 FC -- -- -- --- Stop
00003BFA MOX 2 FB -- -- -- --- Continue
00003C10 MOX 2 F8 -- -- -- --- Timing Clock
00003F17 MOX 2 F8 -- -- -- --- Timing Clock
00003F17 MOX 2 FC -- -- -- --- Stop


F8 F8 F8....

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