Cubase 4, Pitchbend

[Lewap]

Hi

I was wondering if anyone could tell me how I need to go about increasing the depth of pitchbend in Cubase 4?

It currently seems to be set on bend up/down 1 tone - I need to bend to 2 octaves if possible...

Cheers
Paul

[richiebee]

It depends on the patch not on Cubase. What kind of sound generator are you using?


R.

[Lewap]

This particular instance was using one of the HalionOne patches included in Cubase 4.
For years I have used a Yamaha QY700 sequencer. I thought by moving onto Cubase I would be able to do bigger and better things - but it seems I was wrong. (In QY700, you just enter the voice edit screen, and enter the amount of semitones you wish to bend, and its all done...dead easy!)
I have tried other patches, and they all seem to only bend up a tone - not good for writing brass parts that have portamenti all over them...

Any further info would be appreciated (ps thanks for your help on the foot controller question!)

Paul

[tacman7]

I can set that from my midi guitar setup - pitch bend range, also on some VSTi's I've seen a setting for it.

Lots of info on the web like this:
MIDI Pitch Bend

I used to record the setting in my track then it can be changed when you play the track.

[Lewap]

Still having no luck with pitchbend and Cubase. Forget playing pitchbend on the fly - lets say I just wanted to draw in a pitchbend curve on the Pitchbend controller lane in Cubase - I am still only allowed to bend up/down one tone - there has to be some way of adjusting this to allow for bigger bends (eg a trombone sliding up a fourth)
...

Paul

[tacman7]

There is a way of adjusting it. It's called pitch bend range. It's a midi message that I was talking about in my earlier post. I'll record one and attach it and you can try it. It requires a synth that can recognize it but most do. Not sure about Halion One, just have to try it.

[tacman7]

So here's the events from midi-ox:The first two are zeros' guess to clear the register, then the data, 02, OChex=12, and 18hex=24.

2 semitones
0004C728 10 6 B0 64 00 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
0004C728 10 6 B0 65 00 1 --- CC: RPN MSB
0004C728 10 6 B0 06 02 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
0004C729 10 6 B0 64 7F 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
0004C729 10 6 B0 65 7F 1 --- CC: RPN MSB
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

12 Semitones
0005F813 10 6 B0 64 00 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
0005F813 10 6 B0 65 00 1 --- CC: RPN MSB
0005F813 10 6 B0 06 0C 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
0005F815 10 6 B0 64 7F 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
0005F815 10 6 B0 65 7F 1 --- CC: RPN MSB
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

24 Semitones
00061824 10 6 B0 64 00 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
00061824 10 6 B0 65 00 1 --- CC: RPN MSB
00061824 10 6 B0 06 18 1 --- CC: Data Entry MSB
00061825 10 6 B0 64 7F 1 --- CC: RPN LSB
00061825 10 6 B0 65 7F 1 --- CC: RPN MSB

Most of the VSTi's I've played with use 2 only. My yamaha and korg hardware use 12.

Attached it what it looks like in cubase, you could enter it manually in list view.

[richiebee]

I tried RPN's, I figured that would work, but it doesn't. My conclusion is that you can't do it with Halion One. Once again, this is nothing to do with Cubase, but just to do with the VI you're using.

[tacman7]

Yea, I tried several softsynths in the past and it was hit or miss if they would respond to pitchbend range messages. I think slynth did and hardware does.

Can't remember if other sample players do much pitchbend.