Good drum kit

[blinkrocker3]

hey, I'm a guitarist starting a home studio and I've been looking at buying ethier electric drums and Superior Drummer, or and acoustic kit and mics. So I was wondering what brands of drums I should be looking at. I really don't know too much about drums since I'm not a drummer so I don't wanna go off and buy something that is bad or overpriced.

[brandondrury]

I'm a big believer in the human over the gear. A Pearl Export is not a great drum kit when compared a DW or whatever, but I think I may have just captured the best drum sounds of my life on a Pearl Export kit.

I'm just repeating what I'm told, but the Pacifica is supposed to sound pretty much the same as a DW but with cheap hardware and a fraction of the price.

Superior Drummre 2.0 is great and I highly recommend it.

You'll get better results faster with it and an e-drum kit than you will with real mics unless you have an absurb level of natural engineering talent.

Brandon

[rugrat]

Hello,

I'm drummer hence forth giving drum advice.

I would go with an acoustic drum set with out a doubt.

For a good set I would say pearl, yamaha, sonar, and DW. These are all very solid brands. I have a pearl export. What are you looking for?

A good set as in it doesn't sound like crap or a good set as something I'm going to keep for a long time.

Number one you definitely don't need 10toms or something insane like that.
I have three and I barely use them. Drum sets with two toms are all right you really don't need any more. Some of the best drummers only have two toms.

Cymbals...
For cymbals I would get meinl that is a definite. This is a German brand they are inexpensive with amazing sound. They have a set for $210 new I think that has a hihat, crash, ride, and a free filter china. That is the meinl mcs set. Do not look at the price and look else where just because of that. I read a review just yesterday that where someone said they're new mcs crash sounds just as good as their $400 zildjian crash. I agree that these inexpensive cymbals sound great for the price. They maybe be the second to lowest in the brand, but they sound like sabian and zildjians nice stuff. I own a meinl mcs 16" and I love it.

Overall by far the meinl mcs will have the best sound in that price range.
Also paiste is a good brand.

but in my opinion sabian and zildjian are not very good for their price.

For drum miking

The Audix D-6 is great.
For toms and snare I would use sm-57.
For over head and room miking I have no clue. But I'm asking right now.
I don't have any drum mics, but I have talked to a few very good drummers
(some what pro) and these are what they recommend.


I hope this helps.
Thanks matt

[blinkrocker3]

lately I've been leaning towards an electric drum set because my "live room" is just a walk-in closet, so theres not enough room for a kit, and my control room has terrible acoustics. That and I have an amazing talent for pissing off the neighbors, and an acoustic kit won't help.

[rugrat]

Roland v-drum they cost a couple thousand, but they're really nice.
With hundreds of sounds.

[blinkrocker3]

yea thats what I'm looking at. The Roland TD12SV is probably what I'm gonna get. It looks like the most realistic feeling kit.

[fortyseven]

Dude it all depends on you and what you want out of your kit. It also depends on how much money you're willing to blow.
I've always played on either Premier or Ayotte as they've always given me the performance and sound I require. I also had a Slingerland kit which sounded amazing but its not really the kind of kit you'd buy if you are playing rock; its more of a vintage sounding kit. Pearl has never impressed me much although a lot of people like them. DW are seriously quality drums and always kicks ass; they tend to be a bit heavy on the pocket though.
Cymbals will also depend on your music style. If ur into rock like me then Meinl make some pretty decent ones that'll keep you happy. They are well priced too.
I've always used Sabian as a matter of personal preference. They have a very wide range of products ranging from entry level to top end signature pieces. I particularly enjoy their dark Chinese crashes; the Terry Bozzio range is killer.
Zildjian have been making cymbals since like the 1600's so they kinda know what they're doing. Probably the most well known brand on the market. They can be a bit pricey. I've never really rated Paiste and in my opinion, haven't made much of an impact on the market.
Superior Drummer 2.0 comes very highly recommended. I believe that Toontrack should get some sort of award for it because it simply just rocks. I'd definitely check it out if I were you. Electronic kits do have the tendancy to sound like electronic kits but one brand does stand out heads and shoulders above the rest: Roland V-Drum. Its the only electronic kit out there worth buying although they are relatively expensive. Its worth it though.

[blinkrocker3]

yea thanks for the info. The more I hear the more I lean towards that Roland TD12, which is part of their V-Drum series i believe. If that is what I get Ill also buy superior drummer. I've pretty much ruled out acoustic drums because my neighbors already hate me for playing guitar and bass and I don't really have the space.

[lumpy]

Sounds like you are going electric. Don't count out the Yamaha DTX Xpress. I have played the entry level set and I liked it very much - rubber pads, but a nice "brain" with mondo sounds. I know they are well under $1000 now. Even if you move up to the "pro" DTX they are still under $1500 and you get a mesh snare.

I have always had good luck out of Yamaha's products. The next accoustic kit I buy will be Yamaha for sure.

Look around, I heard Simmons is back around.

Lump

[garageband]

Quickly:
The electronic kitswill erode your real drumming skills very quickly, as you will sound like a genius playing them even if you aren't thereby encouraging lazy technique.

For fake drums, I have Battery which is great. I've also tried Groove Agent which is amazing.