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What you say seams to be pretty consistent with what I have experienced.
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Maybe we are debating if an "in tune" drum is a good sounding drum. Well hell, I don't know! I would assume so. If your buddy's drums sound good, they are in tune. If they don't sound good, they are not in tune. I don't know what the hell he is talking about in regard to tuning to the drummer vs turning to the audience. Anyway, great article, Dogpit!! Brandon
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I don't know what the hell he is talking about in regard to tuning to the drummer vs turning to the audience.
I do. Most of it has to do with dampning, ie putting tape or "moon gel" or internal/external devices or "x-rings" on the batter head. This kills projection in a live situation. Recording is a different animal though and I wouldn't be against dampning in the studio. There is such a thing as too much resonance. Let the drums sing and ring. The best way to tune drums in my experience is make them sound good to your ears, and give your buddy the sticks and stand back. Also realize that the drums are going to sound very bright in an empty room, people are sound sponges. In the studio I would just listen to the producer. I've heard tale of this "hairdryer" method. I like the idea of conditioning the head to your enviroment before applying, especially in high humidity. The manufacturing methods and standards of quality drum head makers should make this unnessesary in most situations though, unless using old calf skins. Some good points in the article. I believe the most important step when mounting drum heads is to ensure the head is seated on the bearing edge. I always place the drum on a flat carpeted surface, put the head on and firmly press my fist in the center of the head as hard as I can. Lump
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Dampening has given me many different results in the past. Rings around the drum generally completely kill the attack and body of the drum. Sure it sounds "wet" and floppy or big, but I just hear a choked tone with no initial smack. A bit of tape, or cloth taped to the edge has often taking away some of the odd characteristics of my toms in the past, but I generally have to be careful with how much to apply before I murder the drum.
Good points lumpy. Tuning a bass drum is a completely different story. Some people say tune the bass drum an octave lower than your lowest floor tom. Well I tend to record a lot of metal, and the drummers I record request the style of tuning where you drop the reso heads below the point where they can resonate when being played without distorting. In this case you control the pitch of the drum with the batter heads tightness. This gives you that really fat wet drum sound that you hear on a lot of those played out 80's metal drums. When I tune the bass drum an octave lower, its very low. I've noticed that most of the bass drums I tune get a lot more punch in them when you tune them a bit higher, and they still have a very low power to them. Anyone else have any preferred methods of tuning? I'd love to give them a try. Ben
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I think the drums should be tuned to sound good when played with other instruments. Go here to read all about tuning drums...
Toms Howie Drumming Web - Tuning
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You could tune with your bass player if you know how to hear notes. This guy has saved my life when it comes to tuning drums- Bob Gatzen. He is on youtube I will send you the links- watch these and your drums will sound amazing!
Part One-YouTube - Drum Tuning Series Pt. 1 INTRO Part Two-YouTube - Drum Tuning Series Pt. 2 SNARE Part Three-YouTube - Drum Tuning Series Pt. 3 TOMS Part Four-YouTube - Drum Tuning Series Pt. 4 Bass Drum
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Hey man not a problem, I am here to spread the knowledge that I find/learn.
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