Mackie HR824's

[Andrew07]

I'm selling a pair of HR824's in GREAT condition. Absolutely nothing wrong with them, look great cosmetically, and work perfectly. I don't have the original packaging, but have the manuals and spec sheets that came with them. I bought them from guitar center a little over a year ago for $1260.

I'm asking $630 total.(which includes shipping which is $60). PM me or send me an e-mail if you'd like: GPAOnaka1@hotmail.com

[dach]

great deal Andrew!.... buy mine in addition to his for the same price and get HR824's for your surround setup!!!!

[brandondrury]

You'll need a center channel too, so buy mine as well. Keep the extra one for a spare or some stupid 8.1 setup.

I'd love to get rid of these damn things. I'd love to strangle the bastard who decided that mega hyped speakers would be good marketing move.

Brandon

[Andrew07]

smart asses....on to ebay

[brandondrury]

Yeah, we are smart asses, but I really do want to get rid of mine too. I've been playing around with placement trying to get them to sound as dull and muddy as possible. I'm getting closer to them sounding like total shit, so I expect my mixes to improve quite a bit. I've even put toilet paper over the tweaters. So far, just a single sheet.

My next move is to either put them on their side or raise them up so the tweeter isn't firing right at my face. I want the highs to go right over my head or around my head hopefully making the mids and low mids seam more aggressive.

I'm also considering buying a hardware parametric EQ that I will place after my Mytek DA converter. I want to boost everything under 600Hz by 2dB and maybe boost 120Hz by another 1dB.

I know that this isn't the most fundamentally sound way of getting what I want out of my control room, but I don't have time or money to build my dream control room. So, this will have to suffice.

Brandon

[Andrew07]

Dude, "A" for effort but youre tryin too hard...ditch 'em. I've always thought about putting an EQ before everything to balance the frequency response of what I hear through the monitors, but wouldn't that introduce some kind of phasing?

[brandondrury]

but wouldn't that introduce some kind of phasing?

Sure it would. The way I understand it all EQ involves phasing but I must admit that I do not understand it on a deeper level. I should probably look into this because I do want to know.

Honestly, I don't get a shit. I made some mixes way too harsh on purpose the other day. They turned out sounding a little boring (not exciting or anywhere near harsh at all) and a little muddy. I'm tired of this shit. I've got to get my system figured out.

I need some muddy studio monitors. Since like 7 people on Earth understand the inverse effect every fucking studio monitor company is making their damn monitors mid scooped because it sounds "better". I don't want that. I want my monitors to sound like shit.

Hell, now that I think about it, my hi fi speakers have the low mid thing I don't really like, oddly enough. Maybe I'll try mixing on Klipsche and then using my Mackie on my TV. That would be funny / interesting. Hmmm.



Brandon

[Cal-Puresound]

Yeh sorry, you dont want them to sound like shit to be honest. That will give you no idea of what your mixing to. You'll constantly be compensating for the shittyness of the boxes and when played on anything else, it will just seem kinda odd. What you want is complete clarity, stupidly perfect monitors which show up any noises in your system, bring up hiss on the most professional of recordings. You want everything over exagerated, so it shows up all the problems with your system and your mix. If you can then engineer all that out of your mix and get it sounding good on your monitors then you'll have it perfect on any other speakers anywhere.

Your best bet is somthing by Genelec. Even the lower end of their range will show you a dramatic difference. It will allow you to mix to a whole new level. They have even shown up hiss for me, on some older (but not too old) EMI recordings. I mean they're not music listerning hi-fi speakers at all, they're perfect studio monitors. However the Mackie's are very much just a nice hi-fi speaker, they're not studio designed at all, i mean, they are but, hey, they suck, just the wrong sound. Try and get hold of a pair of Genelec Monitors.

[brandondrury]

I'm aware of what I really want in a studio monitor. No, I really don't want them to sound like shit. When I say I want a muddy sounding speaker, I'm really saying that my current studio monitor / acoustics situation is not showing me this mud the way that I want them to. If I actually had a muddy studio monitor, I would be saying that I wanted a monitor that didn't make my mixes sound thin.

I don't care about hiss. I clean up my tracks, that's fine. My Poison "Open Up and Say Ahhh" tape had hiss. The music was not effected. (Maybe not the best example....ha ha)

I don't know if I buy this "details" argument so much, either. This makes it sound like there is secret information in music that you can only decode with X studio monitor. While I don't deny that some speakers certainly mask and smear certain things, I'm not sure if there is some magic treasure that only X brand of studio monitors can unlock.

Your best bet is somthing by Genelec.

I'm curious as to how you can make such a bold claim. If Genelec is the absolute best for me, then why do people love the Adams, DynaAudio, Tannoys, Yamaha NS-10s, etc. It seams to me that the issue of studio monitors is very much dependent on the room and depending on preferences by that engineer.

I'm not saying that Genelec's are not amazing. I've only heard one set and those were in George Massenberg's room, if my memory serves me correctly.

Brandon

[Andrew07]

I was trying out a pair of ADAM P-22's ($2500)...

Went back to my $200 NS-10's and Best Buy Sony subwoofer. Everybody works differently I guess