Fairtax

[brandondrury]

Hey dudes / chicks,

I'm a REALLY busy guy. I don't like wasting time on long, boring phone call and other misc distractions. I absolutely DETEST paper work and bureaucracy.

I can't seem to figure out why it is advantageous to a society for all of us to waste an average of 50 hours per year (according to this blog Larry’s Log » Blog Archive » Ron Paul and the FairTax ) on filing our taxes.

That means that each and every one of us would get an extra week of vacation if we simply didn't have to file the bullshit forms! That doesn't take into account the cash we'd save after we fired all those IRS assholes. Yes, they are assholes. My aunt works for them. She's smart. She could be doing society some good. Instead she's intentionally weighing down society so she can collect a paycheck. That's immoral. That is wrong!

So anyway, this Fairtax thing looks pretty good. I can't decide what I think about their prebate thing (it feels a bit weird to me) but overall I like it.

I also like the idea of accountability. I'd prefer than the tax not be necessarily built into the prices at the store. I like the fact that a $99 product needs $22 tacked on for government usage. This would immediately throw the idea in the face over consumer that our government is taking too much from us.

Of course, that's not exactly true. For our current lifestyle, the government actually needs to tax double. (I saw somewhere that we have $1.8 trillion going into the government and $3.6 going out this year. Thank God for China! (sarcasm)) I think then a few people may take a look at our current lifestyle and begin to eliminate those things which provide ZERO benefits to 99% of us here on RecordingReview.com. (The luxury of war and world policing comes to mind).

So, overall I'm liking this Fairtax thing.
Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans for Fair Taxation

Brandon

[garageband]

I'd like to get our money back on our luxurious war.

[csiscs]

Originally Posted by garageband

I'd like to get our money back on our luxurious war.

Wasn`t it only recently the UK had paid of its debt to USA for WW2?sure I read that somewhere.

[brandondrury]

I've heard that before, too. I wonder how inflation factors in with that.

Brandon

[mindundermatter]

Yeah, what happens when China asks us to pay THEM back?

[TonyB]

Originally Posted by mindundermatter

Yeah, what happens when China asks us to pay THEM back?

rut roh!

[brandondrury]

Yeah, what happens when China asks us to pay THEM back?

I read an article explaning how this couldn't or at least wouldn't happen. Damn it, but I can't remember how it made sense. It had to do with the fact that the US dollar is the basis of all currency (gold used to be) and somehow if they demanded big bucks from the US they'd cripple their own currency.

Regardless, the concept is noted. Our government has grown too big and spends too much money. Most people agree with that when stated this way and they go vote for Obama or McCain who both advocated greater spending and bigger government. That makes no sense to me.

Brandon

[mindundermatter]

Originally Posted by brandondrury

I read an article explaning how this couldn't or at least wouldn't happen. Damn it, but I can't remember how it made sense. It had to do with the fact that the US dollar is the basis of all currency (gold used to be) and somehow if they demanded big bucks from the US they'd cripple their own currency.

Regardless, the concept is noted. Our government has grown too big and spends too much money. Most people agree with that when stated this way and they go vote for Obama or McCain who both advocated greater spending and bigger government. That makes no sense to me.

Brandon

I never thought of it like that. I agree about the big government. I'll have to think about how it would cripple China's currency though. At first thought, I would think it would do the opposite and the U.S. would become the Communist States of America. Hmm...

[brandondrury]

I'll have to think about how it would cripple China's currency though.

I wish I remembered. I remember saying "What??" when I read it, but when they dug into the economic junk it starting making since in that "I won't remember this" kind of way.

Brandon

[whomper]

Originally Posted by brandondrury

Hey dudes / chicks,

I'm a REALLY busy guy. I don't like wasting time on long, boring phone call and other misc distractions. I absolutely DETEST paper work and bureaucracy.

I can't seem to figure out why it is advantageous to a society for all of us to waste an average of 50 hours per year (according to this blog Larry’s Log » Blog Archive » Ron Paul and the FairTax ) on filing our taxes.

That means that each and every one of us would get an extra week of vacation if we simply didn't have to file the bullshit forms! That doesn't take into account the cash we'd save after we fired all those IRS assholes. Yes, they are assholes. My aunt works for them. She's smart. She could be doing society some good. Instead she's intentionally weighing down society so she can collect a paycheck. That's immoral. That is wrong!

So anyway, this Fairtax thing looks pretty good. I can't decide what I think about their prebate thing (it feels a bit weird to me) but overall I like it.

I also like the idea of accountability. I'd prefer than the tax not be necessarily built into the prices at the store. I like the fact that a $99 product needs $22 tacked on for government usage. This would immediately throw the idea in the face over consumer that our government is taking too much from us.

Of course, that's not exactly true. For our current lifestyle, the government actually needs to tax double. (I saw somewhere that we have $1.8 trillion going into the government and $3.6 going out this year. Thank God for China! (sarcasm)) I think then a few people may take a look at our current lifestyle and begin to eliminate those things which provide ZERO benefits to 99% of us here on RecordingReview.com. (The luxury of war and world policing comes to mind).

So, overall I'm liking this Fairtax thing.
Americans For Fair Taxation: Americans for Fair Taxation

Brandon

i would like less govt and less taxes too
pay for what govt should legitimately do
dont pay for all the other stuff they grabbed onto to grow the bureaucrats empires

remember
every dollar you send to dc
87% goes to politicians
13% comes back to do some good
but only if they dont waste it on a boondoggle
or screw up a good project with their incompetence

net value of govt perhaps 1% of what you pay at most

wht % bad stuff do they do to us? lots more than 1%
we would be better off without govt the way they are going
need to limit govt to national defense (no offense)
police, and regulating biz so they dont poison us to make a bigger profit (think china and their fake protein that killed)
fire etc should be done locally - volounteers work dont need more govt on our backs

better to let churches and charities handle the social stuff
then 80%+ of your money does some good

let biz build roads etc
why let the army corps of engineers waste billions and billions
and screw up everything they touch too