Swedish Death Metal

[Demonaise]

First post here.... crucify me later for this...

haven't played guitar for bout 5 or 6 years... so i'm looking to get back into it, at the urging of a close friend.

so what i'm looking for is this:
i have a Boss Metal Zone and am wondering on how to set up this pedal to get as close as possible to the Swedish Death Metal sound. I know how they came about getting their sound, but at the moment i do not have a HM-2 pedal. so i figured, someone here has got to be more schooled in guitar tone than i. or figuring out how to get this sound from a Metal Zone. i am using a Laney GC 120 C 2x12 combo, a Jackson strat shape with an H-S-H set up.

Thanks for any advice given. CHEERS!

[brandondrury]

i have a Boss Metal Zone and am wondering on how to set up this pedal to get as close as possible to the Swedish Death Metal sound.

I'm not a gear snob, but I've never heard a single usable tone come out of the Metal Zone. It's like a Big Muff but without the fun.

I'm not entirely up on the Swedish Death metal scene, but you are going to have a hard time with that pedal. It is simply unusable in my opinion. If it didn't say "metal" on it, no one would buy it.

Brandon

[ccc187307]

Brandon, not up on your Entombed sounds? Hahaaa!!! It is the most bizarre tone until you listen to what some of those guys did with it. 'Clandestine' is just a crushing album.

OP, did you trying just cranking all the knobs on that thing? That's how the hm2 did it but i get the feeling that is the only pedal that is going to get you there. You've got to massively clip the preamp until you lose the sharp attack of the pick.

[Demonaise]

what does "clip the pre amp" mean? i kno its a dumb question, but im not edu in the that kinda stuff...

yea, im tryin to find an HM-2. the band members of Entombed and Dismember collect those pedal very aggressively. they have up to 20 apiece because its was the original piece of cheap equipment that gave them their defining and break through sound... when all thought it was massive amps and some technical production, it was a cheap pedal and 40 watt peavey amp.

thanks for your patience.

i do agree that the metal zone is very hard to work with. y'alls discussion on the death metal tone or what not veered off into left field about likes and dislike bout metallica and whatever and did not to the Death metal topic with a ten foot pole. So, i thought i would bring this up again but from a different angle.

[ccc187307]

Maybe 'clipping' would not be the correct word but as on any amp with gain, from clean and turn up the dirt, the pick attack stays sharp. As you go too far that attack will start to fuzz out and become less sharp. The hm2 goes too, too (and one more too) far. And it's the worst sound you've ever heard until something clicks in your head and you realize it is absolutely amazing.

They are out there, these links are 1 minute of search.

Boss Heavy Metal HM-2 Distortion Pedal - Moncton Musical Instruments For Sale - Kijiji Moncton

Daddys.com > Used Distortion Pedals > Boss Hm2 Dist Pedal

[Demonaise]

Thanks for the links... i know you can find just about anything on the Net... The HM-2 is extremely hard to find in my town of Corpus Christi. We have a metal scene here, although small... with something like 28 pawn shops... someone is ALWAYS pawning their stuff... anyway. I'm actually in the process of acquiring an HM-2 from Houston through a friend that lives there and with the seller that also lives there...

Back to the Metal Zone...
So, would i run the Metal Zone through the effects loop and add distortion from the amp? or through the effects loop and add the distortion from the Metal Zone? OR, run the Metal Zone in-line from Guitar to amp through the distortion channel and add distortion from the amp? or from the Metal Zone? Then where would you begin with the Mids? Turn the Mids on the amp all the way up and jack with the Metal Zone or ... vice versa?


The Metal Zone has got to have SOME kind of usability. Do y'all know of any settings beside the Boss Manual settings that can give some decent sound?

[ccc187307]

Put the metal zone between the guitar and amp, and if it were me i'd use mostly amp distortion with just a touch from the pedal to clean up the bottom end. But i'm mostly a mid scooped sound with tight and defined attack. That is obviously not what you are shooting for. Try the gain channel first but the way i remember that pedal is it was pretty much designed to take a clean amp and make it big. The dirt channel with the pedal might not work well together.

Experiment with the gain on the amp between 50-100%, add pedal slowly and listen to what is coming out. Keep turning knobs and figure out if each turn is moving towards or away from what you are seeking.

When you get the hm2, on the first two Entombed albums it was all knobs to 100%, a screaming feedback monster indeed. As they progressed you could tell they were backing off the pedal madness a bit.

In the effects loop, only use time effects(chorus/delay/flange/etc) or eq. That is the final processing before the power stage. Although what do i know, you might find the holy grail tone there but i'm doubting it.

[Demonaise]

thanks ccc.
i'll go from there and see what i can find. all of your help is greatly appreciated.

[ccc187307]

Cool, just remember to keep the pedal between guitar and amp, and most likey the hotter you get with the pedal the more you need to back off the gain of the amp. I would try to keep the amp's gain higher and then see how much you can dial in.

And your hm2 is on the way! Let me know what you think of that.

[Demonaise]

no prob ccc thanks for the help. i'll let you kno how the HM-2 sounds... thanks.