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Old 07-15-2008, 09:23 PM
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I've been posting some mix tests lately, so thak you for giving me good advice. So now heres a full song, spent 6 hours on it today, and i think it sounds decent, but id like you guys to say what you think of it.
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I like the drums in that they fit the genre of the song. Were they played or programmed? Let us know what gear you used. I'm not in love with the guitar tones - they seem to have a very narrow range - the rhythm ones. The leads are okay - tone wise. The playing is excellent.
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Thanks for the comment. The drums are Superior Drummer 2.0. The guitar was made with a homemade guitar, swamp ash body with a flame maple top, EMG 81 in the brigde position. I run it through a mesa dualrec roadster combo and i recorded it with a single SM57.
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The EMG 'splains it then. For some reason the only sound I ever heard come out of an EMG that I liked was off the pick of Zakk Wylde. I've tried to like them over the years, but I guess we all have our preferences. You should be able to get some more beefy chugga chugga (that is a technical engineering term) out of the Mesa though, no matter what you are using. Try dialing in a little low end 200hz or so on the rhythms.
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Alright i'll try that when I have a chance, thanks again.
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I kinda actually like that mid-rangey guitar tone, but then one man's meat...etc... I'm certainly no expert on this style of music but I've often found what will "fatten" up a guitar sound is increase the level of the bass, & so far as I can see (er...hear) there doesn't seem to be much happening in the bottom end bass-wise. All I can hear is the kick drum, so maybe try backing off some of the "beef" of the kick drum & bringing up the bass guitar, while perhaps increasing the attack (click) of the kick to maintain it's presence in the mix - by the way...great drum programming!
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Thanks. The only problem is that I compose and record all the stuff and I don't own a bass, so ive been trying to have a mix that sounds full without it. Having a bass track would certainly help. Ive been thinking about a 5 string bass.
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sounds very nice
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Thanks for the comment. The drums are Superior Drummer 2.0. The guitar was made with a homemade guitar, swamp ash body with a flame maple top, EMG 81 in the brigde position. I run it through a mesa dualrec roadster combo and i recorded it with a single SM57.
Congratulations on your Superior 2.0, I love it.

I really like the tone, a lot. I think the issue is that you didnt have the presence high enough on the amp/you weren't pushing the speaker enough. If you retrack the guitars and work with the amp tone, you may be in amazing shape.

Also, the guitars are too low/pushed too far back.

The playing is great, as is the song itself. Reminds me of Pre-My Arms, Your Hearse Opeth mixed with several other things.

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Default Re: Instrumental metal song.

cool song. nice countermelodies. some of the tremolo picking parts remind me of early In Flames.

First off, the song definitely needs bass. I'll assume thats going to be added later. these rhythmn guitar tones should work pretty well with bass. they arent too bottom end heavy. you might add a little more upper mid/highs to the guitars once you record the bass.

drums were recorded/sequenced pretty well. the drum sound was a little too "room mic" for me though. the bass drum sounds like it needs some compression and/or eq and maybe a bit more click for a more modern metal sound. snare tone is good, but could use some reverb and maybe compression. toms need to be louder. the samples in superior are totally raw, so they need work to get them to sound close to modern metal studio recordings. im pretty impressed with how real they sound though. it sounds like im in a room with a guy playing the drums, not like a recorded and processed track. for what its worth, I was unable to get a usable sound out of DFHS, so I use EZDFH which has processed samples.

nice work.
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