Hi guys

[DavidianNL]

First off, thank you brandon for fixing that registering problem Ill be going to musical enginering next hopefully so i will be hanging around here quite allot i think

Ok, i made a recording 2 weeks ago and people seem to like it but, it was still a "lucky" break that everything fit the way it does.

I need some help getting beter results for my next song as i seem to struggle quite a bit making that one beter, wich it must be ofcourse.

Any suggestions will be good

www.myspace.com/dracovic

[brandondrury]

Alright dude. I'm glad you are aboard.

Time to bash!

Step #1. Grab a great sounding metal record. Listen to one song (preferably on your studio monitors) and then listen to your mix. Right down how your mix is different as far as levels are concerned and as far as brightness, dullness, etc.

You have an enormous amount of fizz in your guitars. More than likely this is due to way the guitar player sets his amp. It sounds like a Boss pedal board or something. If you don't have real deal guitar amps, it's tough to get real deal tone.

Most young guitar players set their amp with the highs on 10 or whatever, but if you listen you won't find this on anything but industrial music. This whole notion that the mids should be set to 0 for metal is a crock of shit too. Someone lied to the young metal kids so keep the tone of the masses sounding wretched.

The mix is actually balanced pretty good as far as volumes are concerned, but I'll wait to get too critical until you compare your cd with a few pro metal cds.

Brandon

[DavidianNL]

Hi brandon

I knew the fizz was going to come up, and i have a couple of reasons why i have that. First being that its something that found in most black metal and i wanted that black metal touch to it seeing as the bass and the drums are quite the opposite but i can understand that you cant stand it i totally do.

My settings are: Treble 9, Mid 6/7, bass 2 then in the mixer i add a little high and allot of of low then place the mic maybe 15 cm from the amp wich is a cube 30.


But if you have suggestions to get a beter tone i can always try it!(mic placing is still something i struggle with allot)

[brandondrury]

Well if the fizz is what you want, by all means go for it. If that tone is part of the music, than great. I don't hear this tone much except in 16 year old kids who don't know what they are doing yet, but that's a part of the evolution. The guys who grew up to Zeppelin think that "Lamb of God" sounds thin, too. So whatever. Of course, Lamb of God isn't nearly THAT fizzy. Neither is Children of Bodom.

Could you recommend some Black Metal with similar tone? I'd like to see what's going on in that realm.

It's hard to tell you how to improve your tone when you are happy with what you have now. If you are truely happy with it, you are done. You've reached your engineering peak. You've got the guitars all figured out.

What about the drums? Are you happy with those?

Brandon

[DavidianNL]

I will proberly never be happy with any tone seeing as there is always room for improvement.

I think the fizz comes in when i start recording(maybe its my sm57?), because my amp has one of the cleanest distortion there is, its like an solid state engl.

Its not really the fizz that i want, its the powerfull guitar sound i am after and to get that i have to push some meters, i know there must be a beter way to things but i dont know how yet maybe thats something you can help me with? You can talk technical btw

http://www.myspace.com/secretsofthemoon

I like this tone but i want a guitar tone that has a little more power and aggression.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=10773295

This guy is one of my heroes, but he also has one of the best sponsors in the world so getting this tone will be hard i think

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=46383842

I like this one to, although its a bit "tame" on the tremelo picking part, BUt i think for this band the bass adds allot to and now are getting to my next problem.

I have allot of trouble balancing the bass and the bass drum. Mostly i just favor the bassdrum because i have a very cheap bass and i use guitarrig 2 for an amp wich is not ideal but it works, i never seen anyone else doing this but if you are on a budget you have to find other ways to do things. I think some
more EQ would help but i dont know really where to put the EQ yet.

I think ill try working with more tracks to record to guitar, hopefully i can get the volumes right again then.