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Please guys fire at will. I am still a little bit doubtful of the reverb on the snare, it makes it feel far back in the mix, the rest seen pretty good...? Uploaded the two song I did for the band. Thanx.
First thing I heard are the crispy-harsh cymbals....Mayb it suffer from the mp3 convertion..You might check that.
The vocal sounds in another space than the rest and it's sounds a bit odd to my ears. I would suggest trying to use the same reverb on the entire mix and not only on vocals. Or bring more dry vocal in the mix. An idea could be to parrallel compress the vocal and use that completely dry in the mix.
Both songs has the same kind of "issues"....However on the second one, the vocal in calm parts sound more in the same space.
PL: Is the R gtr gated? I think I noticed at first. I don't see why that'd be necessary. Why is there no air in this? It's all-the-way-loud all the way though. I'm talking about the limiting. For a lot of it, it drones on without impact. Vocal doesn't cut through the wall of guitars... a few different ways around that. I like the Iron Maiden sensibility they have out of the gate but someone doesn't feels it's cool enough for me to listen to and insists instead of shoving hyper-compressed guitars in my face. Closing fade felt lumpy.
CIB: Bass is awfully loud and a touch bottom-heavy. Again, I'm totally loving the vocals but have to dig through a bunch of stuff to get to them. Between that digging and the ridiculous (be mad if you want) amount of limiting, I'm exhausted and not in a good way. You know, if your guitarist lays a bit of an egg on a riff, it's OK to use something else or just leave it out.
BTW I think the reverb (amount, handling, type) works good for the material.
Last edited by garageband; 02-11-2012 at 06:08 PM.
Im curious how you did your limiting. Its been mentioned above but its a little bit much. I find a stack of comps doing almost nothing individually before the limiter is the best way to get your volume up. It just seems like you sacrificed your mix to the gods of loudness.
Aaaah yes I agree about the harsh cymbals. As for the limiting I agree that it probably got a bit out of control. I use cubase and I usually put a limiter on the master buss, just to trim the peaks before exporting and mastering in wavelab. I think thats where the big limiting issue came in. Is there another way of making sure you mix doesn't clip before exporting, except for using more compression on individual tracks. Please some opinions on the snare, too much reverb? I'm using the FX channel on stereo output which seem to me makes it sit further back in the mix, should I rather do a mono output on the snare verb? Thanks for the advice.
Like night and day. Nice, esp the first one. Now it really works. Second one is just a touch brighter, it doesn't match quite the other well enough, album-wise. Still, though, now it's really together. Like solo break on PL. If that is only I can hear, that's a huge improvement.
Great improvement! Hard to find anything to bash now! Except that "cross I bear" seems a tad better than "promised lies"...If you can get "promised lies" to match this quality, then you'll get two winner! Maybe this feeling is just because I personnaly more like "cross I", songwriting wise.
Seems you've learned a ton between your two versions!!
Thanks for the help guys, well bit of eq on the bass and cymbals and turned the guitar down a bit, thats all it was. But yes I agree sound much better now. Thanks again. About my earlier limiting question. How do you guys approuch this...?
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