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Mixing Clockwork Clown - A fHumbling Journey - Part 1 - "The Big Idea"

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by , 04-03-2012 at 09:29 AM (7503 Views)
Here is the link to the mix I am discussing: cLockWork cLown - fHumble mIx

So... how to start... how to start...HOW TO START???

What do you do to start a mix? "That's easy", you say: "Just import the tracks into your DAW & pull up the (virtual) faders - start mixing - Duh!" Well, most who've done it know it's not that easy.
Ever heard anyone say "Get a clue!"? The fact is, unless you have a clue when you start a mix, the end result will sound like you need to get a clue.
When I start a mix I do a LOT of listening - I want to absorb everything I can about the musical, emotional & (yes, even) physical intent of the mix. I try to identify the things that are at the very core of the track. What are the strengths that I want to highlight? What are the weaknesses I want to downplay? What is it that is special & individual about this track?

You might have noticed, I have said absolutely nothing about the technical merits (or lack thereof) of the recorded tracks... Why? Well, for a start- most of the things I've mentioned so far can be gleaned simply from the artist's rough mix - True, sometimes you'll find hidden gems among the overdubs as you sift through the individual tracks in your DAW, but essentially, in "broad strokes" the rough mix should tell you all you need to know.
Getting down to specifics then: What did I conclude from listening to Iain's (LazyE's) guide mix?

The positives:
This was an awesomely original, melodic & definitely left-of-centre pop song
The harmonic structure of the song was a little ambiguous, which gave it an air of mystery, discovery & inventiveness.
It had an unusual structure that created a quirky swathe of transitions through different emotional states.
The song had a defined dynamic contour that closely mirrored the emotional state of the song's protagonist... It started off intimate, moved though swinging dynamic contrasts that gradually increased with each new phase in harmonic complexity & (even) dissonance, then tapered off to an intimate, exhausted finale.
The vocalist's delivery seemed absolutely uncontrived, believable & real. There were no histrionics or vocal gymnastics to speak of - just raw emotion (& a little whiff of booze!)
The playing was very good - again seemingly off-the-cuff, somewhat improvised, exploratory, & in some ways, almost "stream-of-consciousness" stuff - in other words, never boring, never needlessly repetitive - I felt a real sense of musical adventure here...

The negatives:
The main thing that struck me as "difficult" was the rhythm of the track. The drums didn't seem to reflect the same sense of adventure as the other elements - they seemed quite static & repetitive, as if stitched together from a few repeating loops for each section... Upon examining the midi files, it seemed evident that this was the case (which is logical, because Iain has admitted this was essentially a quickly conceived demo.)
In an electronic production, repeating loops are par for the course, but here, in the midst of such a wild, organic beast of a song, the drums just didn't seem to groove or fit at all - They seemed to create a "plodding" mood that seemed (at least to me) to be the antithesis of the psychedelic pop'n'roll animal it could be.
You'll notice I haven't mentioned bum notes or flat singing. TBH, this stuff never worried me. Some people (perhaps rather unkindly) refer to some mixing experiences as "polishing turds". In fact, with a song like this one, I prefer to view it as "cutting a diamond" - Even the greatest diamonds ever found need to be cut "just right", so that their best facets are displayed, & their flaws cleverly hidden... so I felt confident that this would be the case with "Clockwork Clown"

The conclusion:

I wanted to create a mix that really amplified the song's dynamics & adventurousness. I determined that the vocals needed to draw you in to the story... to wrap around you like a w@rm blanket, making the most of the timbre of Iain's voice. I decided to use effects fairly liberally, yet (hopefully) tastefully to intensify the contrast between the unreal, & the real states reflected in the song's lyrics.
I wanted the contrasts in the song not only to be expressed through extremes of frequency variation & timbre, but also the large variations in the width & the "depth" of the mix.
With all that buzzing around my head, I decided to attack my greatest concern first - How do I get the rhythm of this song to move & groove with the same intensity & inventiveness as the rest of the track?

That's what I'll discuss in Part 2... stay tuned!

...& here it is now: http://forum.recordingreview.com/blo...ng-groove.html

Updated 04-07-2012 at 07:55 PM by fHumble fHingaz

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  1. ncls's Avatar
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    Yeah, that is great. Nice job, thanx a lot for that.
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  2. Radukku's Avatar
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    That's very fast and very good!
    I read it in a breath's time and it's a good, succinct and to the point beginning pretty much echoing my own views and perception of the song! One must though accept that indeed we are NOT talking about a big shot big production here but about a very sensible, simple but not simplistic, structured yet not rigid composition of 'one of our own' ...Even so when I heard it the first time (a long time ago...late February that is...) I heard clearly in my head 'I wish I wrote this!!!'. And that sums up whatever happened next...Posing the technical/creative challenges that it indeed does is only a side note and an invitation to accept the idea that you want to get exactly where you mentioned you wanted to get in your conclusion!
    So at this point I'm ready...er for Part 2 ! I am 'melodyne' tuned and waiting for 'let's get down to business'!
    Thank you grande mate!
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  3. ncls's Avatar
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    He's good at writing too...
    In which topic is fHumble fHingaz not good at? cooking? doing origami? juggling?
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  4. Radukku's Avatar
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    Originally Posted by ncls
    He's good at writing too...
    In which topic is fHumble fHingaz not good at? cooking? doing origami? juggling?
    dunno!
    maybe gardening?
    let's ask him!
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    In an electronic production, repeating loops are par for the course, but here, in the midst of such a wild, organic beast of a song, the drums just didn't seem to groove or fit at all - They seemed to create a "plodding" mood that seemed (at least to me) to be the antithesis of the psychedelic pop'n'roll animal it could be.
    Actually, I felt the opposite, the percussion was very specifically there to be mechanical and plodding. The drums are a supplement to the ticking track, both part of the overall percussion that was supposed to evoke a windup toy or clockwork clown.
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  6. fHumble fHingaz's Avatar
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    That's very fast and very good!
    I read it in a breath's time and it's a good, succinct and to the point beginning pretty much echoing my own views and perception of the song! One must though accept that indeed we are NOT talking about a big shot big production here but about a very sensible, simple but not simplistic, structured yet not rigid composition of 'one of our own' ...Even so when I heard it the first time (a long time ago...late February that is...) I heard clearly in my head 'I wish I wrote this!!!'. And that sums up whatever happened next...Posing the technical/creative challenges that it indeed does is only a side note and an invitation to accept the idea that you want to get exactly where you mentioned you wanted to get in your conclusion!
    So at this point I'm ready...er for Part 2 ! I am 'melodyne' tuned and waiting for 'let's get down to business'!
    Thank you grande mate!
    Thanks Rad...yeah, sorry this installment is so chin-strokingly philosophical - I needed to get that out of the way - next time there'll be more "nuts'n'bolts", I promise!

    In which topic is fHumble fHingaz not good at? cooking? doing origami? juggling?

    dunno!
    maybe gardening?
    let's ask him!
    cooking? - Yes, I can actually cook, worked as one about 20 years ago - have barely touched a frypan since (much to my wife's chagrin)
    doing origami? - Umm, nah, unless that includes making paper airplanes, in which case.... nah!
    juggling? - Huh? Are you kidding? What would you expect from a guy who calls himself fHumble fHingaz?
    maybe gardening? - I HATE gardening - Lawn-mowing is the closest I get, & that's only because I have to do it.

    LOL! I do love writing...
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  7. Radukku's Avatar
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    well excellent then...I was just about to ask you how do you feel about knitting but, on a second thought, stick to the writing...down to the nuts and bolts!
    Now that we know!...
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  8. fHumble fHingaz's Avatar
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    Actually, I felt the opposite, the percussion was very specifically there to be mechanical and plodding. The drums are a supplement to the ticking track, both part of the overall percussion that was supposed to evoke a windup toy or clockwork clown.
    Y'know M24P, I don't completely disagree with you on that at all - I know, by my previous comments, it sounds like I do, but.... well, more on that later
  9. brandondrury's Avatar
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    Thunderous blog, dude! It's probably the best hunk of writing we've ever had on this site. Normally when people start to get "creative" with their adjectives for audio I immediately want to punch them.

    Example: "Tom Petty reaches into the blue of the stratosphere and pulls back a gold nugget". NO, he doesn't! Go to hell. He writes songs. That's it. SHUT UP!

    You've somehow used a billion adjectives that made sense to me and I didn't even think about smashing the desk. Well done! You also hit a home run in terms of your thought process. This is the thing we rarely get in audio land. What to do is ALWAYS a result of what we think. Even killer shows like Pensado's Place fall a little short of this IMO, but you've hit a home run with this one.

    This was an awesomely original, melodic & definitely left-of-centre pop song
    Interesting. I didn't notice a tendency for liberal politics in the song.

    They seemed to create a "plodding" mood that seemed (at least to me) to be the antithesis of the psychedelic pop'n'roll animal it could be.
    It could be that I swing the electronic way more than others, but I didn't find this rigid loop to be a problem. On some levels, I think the contrast highlighted all those good human qualities in the real track. Whether a real drummer or human-like MIDI programming would have improved the song is up for debate, but it's my view that the song would not have improved with a real human groove. YMMV

    I will say that I consider the forgettable nature of the drums to be a blessing as there's a point where the brain gives up on them and focuses on the stars of the show.

    , I prefer to view it as "cutting a diamond"
    I'm glad others feel this way, too. There was something about this song that made it well worth any technical tasks. I almost called them "challenges" but that's stupid. The modern tools are too good and if a person isn't used to using them....then they are on a different planet from me.

    cooking? - Yes, I can actually cook, worked as one about 20 years ago
    Dickhead! I hate all people who are talented at more than one thing. It's how I rationalize being just "kinda crappy" at 200 things.

    Brandon
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  10. bobbybovine's Avatar
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    Very succinct blog Mr. fHumble. A pleasure to read!! Nothing like setting the bar high.
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  11. Emma's Avatar
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    Really helpful blog thanks fHumble...
    Particularly enjoyed -
    When I start a mix I do a LOT of listening - I want to absorb everything I can about the musical, emotional & (yes, even) physical intent of the mix. I try to identify the things that are at the very core of the track. What are the strengths that I want to highlight? What are the weaknesses I want to downplay? What is it that is special & individual about this track?
    Actually working within the core ingredients rather than deciding (from what I think of as a 'top down' approach) as an 'expert' - what the track needed.
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    Thanks for taking the time to read & comment, everyone!

    Hmm... believe me, Brandon, there are about a million useful, practical, valuable-to-actual-people-type things I'm hopeless at! - When it comes to useless-to-society creative stuff however, I've always viewed myself as a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none...

    ...second installment of the blog now up: Mixing Clockwork Clown - Part 2 - Wrestling the with THE GROOVE.
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    Originally Posted by fHumble fHingaz
    Thanks for taking the time to read & comment, everyone!

    Hmm... believe me, Brandon, there are about a million useful, practical, valuable-to-actual-people-type things I'm hopeless at! - When it comes to useless-to-society creative stuff however, I've always viewed myself as a bit of a jack of all trades, master of none...

    ...second installment of the blog now up: Mixing Clockwork Clown - Part 2 - Wrestling the with THE GROOVE.
    MONUMENTAL! FANTABULOUS!!
    But..."useless-to-society creative stuff " ? See below!


    Warning!
    May cause severe heart and brain injuries !!! Read at your own risk! Laughed the sweet daylight out of me...
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  14. valito62's Avatar
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    very instructive! On to the second part!