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Originally Posted by Svencanz  Hey Danny,
This little thing probably fits under this heading? Audio mid/side encoder/decoder plugin - MSED - Voxengo
Where do I actually "connect it" in Cubase?
At the moment I only use the standard stereo buss, run all my tracks to that. I suspect with a "spacer" thing like this I might have to get into having more busses, or something?
Cheers,
Sven |
Hi Sven,
I finally had a chance to spend some time with this plug. I first tried it on my master bus to see what it would do. Both Encode and Decode modes threw my vocals out of the center position to where it was just not a good thing. You can fix it, but it still just sounds off-set. However, Inline mode was a different animal. For the most part, from what I can tell, this plug is like a Waves S-1 or a PSP stereo enhancer type plug. It will widen the stereo field as well as give you control over the mono field. The funny thing for me was I decided to stop bypassing it and just leave it on and tweak it until it sounded right using inline mode on my mastering bus. When I finally bypassed it to listen to what I may have improved on or degraded, there was absolutely no difference. LOL!!! I literally set it to sound like the mix currently was without bypassing and checking it. I found that kinda strange.
Now, using this in a buss of instrumentation is a pretty cool thing. For example, I threw it on a guitar buss that had 4 guitars going on. It actually did a pretty decent job of controlling how wide the guitars would go. Used to the extreme is somewhat simulated going beyond the stereo field of hard left/hard right...which is common with most imaging type plugs. But, it didn't degrade the sound and totally separate the guitars from the mix like some plugs do. Encode, Decode and Inline gave me different results while in the guitar buss. Nothing was thrown out of whack like what happened on the master buss with the vocals. So, it's definitely a plug that needs to deal with stereo sound if you are to use both mid and side knobs.
I think it's a pretty cool plug actually and thank you for turning us onto it. I'm not sure I would use it as it really wasn't giving me anything that made me say "oh wow, I soo gotta use this" but I think the best way to use it would be on a track where you need a special effects type pan control. Queensryche uses stuff like this on some of Geoff Tates vocal lines or when they want something "special" to leap out at a listener. I don't know that I'd use this on a master buss, but perhaps an instrument buss or like I say, a track where we need some additional spacial sweetening. I'd definitely automate it and not just leave it on because it can defintely be abused especially if someone mixes with headphones on. It will simulate throwing the sound beyond the normal pan field and in most cases, this will separate a mix way too much for me. But for special effects, or instrument busses used in moderation or with automation, this is definitely a cool little plug.
I love the undo ability as well as the history menu. I think is should be mandatory for all plugins to have those features as they really can be quite helpful to us. Hope this helps...thanks again for sharing this.
