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Old 03-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Small room - I get a ton of bleed into the snare and bass mic. It takes me forever to mix it out. I have been recording in a smallish room with glass doors. From reading the forum I assume I am getting a ton of reflection and that is what I am hearing. I can open the doors, and or move the drums. I assume that should help. Thoughts?
This depends. A very live, small room will cause lots of bleed. However, you are still going to get quite a bit bleed in your your snare mic. The snare mic is not really a snare mic. The snare mic is a "spot mic" which is designed to give you a signal that highlights the snare drum. There is no way for a mic to completely ignore other noises in the room ( like the loud assed cymbals, for example). You can try gating, but this shouldn't be necessary if the drummer knows how to play.

This brings up a much bigger issue. If the drummer isn't hitting the snare at an absolutely insane intensity, he probably doesn't know what he is doing. This opens up about 30,000 possible problems. If a drummer doesn't know how to hit drums properly, good luck!

The biggest problem with a small room is boxiness. This adds a coat of 400-600Hz onto everything, but EQ isn't the best solution. A better sounding room is the right solution.

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Tom ring - So bad when I mix it out I get a weak tom sound. Advice? I try tuning, but have resisted taping the heads up. What is working best in other home studios?
The source is everything.

If your toms suck, you've got to figure out a solution. Tom tuning is extremely important. Using the right tom is important. How you angle the tom is important. Using drums that are not warped is important. There are a thousand possibilities here. Sometimes you need the toms to ring a little bit. You can always go in and cut that out. Sometimes you need a bunch of stuff to kill the ring. Sometimes you don't need any.

Also, the tom issue goes back to the drummer. If he tries to cram too many tom hits into a fill, by default, the toms will sound small. Hitting less toms with more authority is a giant part of the big drum sound process.

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So bad when I mix it out I get a weak tom sound.
What are you doing exactly?

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Too many mics - I am close miking 8 channels because I can - what would you recommend. I want powerful bass snare that cracks, and toms that rattle entrails... Please advise
I'm guessing
kick
snare top
snare bottom
tom1
tom2
tom3

What else are you close micing?

I don't consider overheads to be (close micing). Let me know if you do.

Are you using a room mic? If so, did it help in any way?

Brandon
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